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Linguistics Studies

Formal Semantics

0 My Semantics class have started a unit of logic and I've found myself surprisingly fascinated by it. On my lecturer's advice I've been doing some reading on the subject (books like "The language instinct" and "Everything that linguists have wanted to know about logic but were too ashamed to ask") and feel that I've learned a lot about the topic, except for one thing. 02br
00I've learned a lot about logic and how to apply it in linguistics, but I don't really feel comfortable talking about WHY we use it. I know what I think on the subject; I believe that we use logic because languages don't really reflect reality, but rather our perception of it (if a language COULD perfectly describe reality, we wouldn't need so many of them!). The rigidity of logic allows us to sort out ambiguities and get at the real meaning behind words and sentences. I'm still unsure about its ability to translate concepts. 02br
00What do other people think? Why DO we utilise such a rigid, rule- based thing as logic to describe something as fluid and illogical as language? 02br
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0 Hello Guest 02br 02br 00Doubts about 'logic' and 'linguistics': Julia Kristeva covers some related aspects in her book 'Desire in Language' (1980). One well known essay from this collection is 'The Ethics of Linguistics'. g.

  • 0 Hello Guest 02br 02br 00Doubts about 'logic' and 'linguistics': Julia Kristeva covers some related aspects in her book 'Desire in Language' (1980).
  • One well known essay from this collection is 'The Ethics of Linguistics'.
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  • the 'poetic' use of language isn't wholly susceptible to analysis of the kind you describe.
  • ) 02br 02br 00I don't myself know much about these things; but I'm not convinced that logic alone does allow us to 'get at the real meaning'.
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00Doubts about 'logic' and 'linguistics': Julia Kristeva covers some related aspects in her book 'Desire in Language' (1980). One well known essay from this collection is 'The Ethics of Linguistics'. Her premise, as I understand it – and I'm not entirely certain I follow every step of her argument – is that e.g. the 'poetic' use of language isn't wholl
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0 Hello, Guest. I'm not a linguist nor a specialist of formal semantics, but I suffered from the same question when I was learning it. Having spent quite a bit of time, paper and ink, now I think it's worth while to acquire it, or at least to understand its basics if you are really interested in the analysis of language. At the same time I think things were more easier for me if I understood WHY
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0 As a post scriptum. If you pose a question such as " Do languages represent a reality? " or " What is the meaning? " you will surely get lost in a metaphysical labyrinth. You'll never get a concrete answer (I guess). If you use a model-theoretic semantics, we can get rid of these kind of metaphysical matters. It's one advantage of formal semantics, in my opinion. 02br
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