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For my wife and I
Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results. As those who've been watching will know, it is rare to find a "mistake" outnumbering the "standard" usage on the Web contrary to what some grinches assume. Yet this formula seems to do it.
I'd appreciate it if one or two other people would double-check at least some of these results (set search to English only), since we have found that unfortunate problem of Google's erratic estimates.
"for my wife and I" 6890
"for my wife and me" 3360 1:2
"for my husband and I" 5670
"for my husband and me" 2340 1:2
A check of the first hits shows that about 10% of these can be accounted for by other punctuation, such as:
...a problem for my husband (and I agree)
I have lost my love for my wife, and I want to get...
That still leaves plenty of hits remaining, though.
Is it tied to the particular, frequently-used phrase with "husband" and "wife"? Apparently not. There is, for example:
"for my boss and I" 84
"for my boss and me" 8 l:10
"for my sister and I" 1580
"for my sister and me" 1170 2:3
"for my brother and I" 1480
"for my brother and me" 1140 2:3
"for my friend and I" 1050
"for my friend and me" 192 1:5
No wonder this construction is starting to sound more normal to me it truly is being used a lot.
Intrigued Donna Richoux
I'd appreciate it if one or two other people would double-check at least some of these results (set search to English only), since we have found that unfortunate problem of Google's erratic estimates.
"for my wife and I" 6890
"for my wife and me" 3360 1:2
"for my husband and I" 5670
"for my husband and me" 2340 1:2
A check of the first hits shows that about 10% of these can be accounted for by other punctuation, such as:
...a problem for my husband (and I agree)
I have lost my love for my wife, and I want to get...
That still leaves plenty of hits remaining, though.
Is it tied to the particular, frequently-used phrase with "husband" and "wife"? Apparently not. There is, for example:
"for my boss and I" 84
"for my boss and me" 8 l:10
"for my sister and I" 1580
"for my sister and me" 1170 2:3
"for my brother and I" 1480
"for my brother and me" 1140 2:3
"for my friend and I" 1050
"for my friend and me" 192 1:5
No wonder this construction is starting to sound more normal to me it truly is being used a lot.
Intrigued Donna Richoux
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[nq:1]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results. As those who've been watching will ... that unfortunate problem of Google's erratic estimates.
- [nq:1]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results.
- As those who've been watching will ...
- that unfortunate problem of Google's erratic estimates.
- "for my wife and I" 6890 "for my wife and me" 3360 1:2[/nq] Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.
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[nq:1]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results. As those who've been watching will ... that unfortunate problem of Google's erratic estimates. "for my wife and I" 6890 "for my wife and me" 3360 1:2[/nq]
Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.
Paul
My Lake District walking site (updated 29t
Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.
Paul
My Lake District walking site (updated 29t
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[nq:2]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches ... and I" 6890 "for my wife and me" 3360 1:2[/nq]
[nq:1]Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.[/nq]
Clever, but I actually had looked for that in the first hundred hits. Not there. (That sort of "for" is known in US English but it is a little bit rare.)
I don't want to depre
[nq:1]Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.[/nq]
Clever, but I actually had looked for that in the first hundred hits. Not there. (That sort of "for" is known in US English but it is a little bit rare.)
I don't want to depre
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[nq:2]I'd appreciate it if one or two other people would ... and I" 6890 "for my wife and me" 3360 1:2[/nq]
[nq:1]Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.[/nq]
I just tested this and read the first 30 hits carefully. Indeed, five of them are correct English:
[nq:1]This has been a particularly busy and stressful summer for my wife, and I know wi
[nq:1]Some of them may not have been incorrect, for my wife and I often go out together.[/nq]
I just tested this and read the first 30 hits carefully. Indeed, five of them are correct English:
[nq:1]This has been a particularly busy and stressful summer for my wife, and I know wi
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"for my wife and I" 10300
"for my wife and me" 5020 1:2
"for my husband and I" 8450
"for my husband and me" 3380 1:2
"for my boss and I" 123
"for my boss and me" 11 1:11
"for my sister and I" 2360
"for my sister and me" 1740 4:5
"for my brother and I" 2200
"for my brother and me" 1690 4:5
"for my friend and I" 1590
"for my friend and me" 288 1:5
"for my wife and I" 10300
"for my wife and me" 5020 1:2
"for my husband and I" 8450
"for my husband and me" 3380 1:2
"for my boss and I" 123
"for my boss and me" 11 1:11
"for my sister and I" 2360
"for my sister and me" 1740 4:5
"for my brother and I" 2200
"for my brother and me" 1690 4:5
"for my friend and I" 1590
"for my friend and me" 288 1:5
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[nq:1]I don't want to depress you with too many real examples, but they are things like: Please pray for my ... and I to write one joint will It will be a much needed get away for my husband and I.[/nq]
It makes me laugh, rather than depressing me, because (at least here in England) it tends to be a class/snob issue: most of the people who do it are trying to sound good. The commoners (and the
It makes me laugh, rather than depressing me, because (at least here in England) it tends to be a class/snob issue: most of the people who do it are trying to sound good. The commoners (and the
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[nq:2]I don't want to depress you with too many real ... a much needed get away for my husband and I.[/nq]
[nq:1]It makes me laugh, rather than depressing me, because (at least here in England) it tends to be a class/snob issue: most of the people who do it are trying to sound good. The commoners (and the well educated) still say 'me'.[/nq]
It is possible that some of the examples Donna ha
[nq:1]It makes me laugh, rather than depressing me, because (at least here in England) it tends to be a class/snob issue: most of the people who do it are trying to sound good. The commoners (and the well educated) still say 'me'.[/nq]
It is possible that some of the examples Donna ha
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Thanks for checking, Steffen. I just compared your items to what Google gives me here I've got them in a different order than you put them here, but we do have all the same ones. I believe I counted all these in my check of the first hundred I think I got 11 out of 100, or, as I said in my first post, about 10%.
But suppose you and I both underestimated and, say, *20%* of the "and I" pages wer
But suppose you and I both underestimated and, say, *20%* of the "and I" pages wer
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[nq:1]But I checked the first section of the "for my boss and I" results and 70% to 80% of them were "other constructions".[/nq]
Oh, good. I'm glad you could account for those numbers they were awfully high.
Best Donna Richoux
[nq:1]But I checked the first section of the "for my boss and I" results and 70% to 80% of them were "other constructions".[/nq]
Oh, good. I'm glad you could account for those numbers they were awfully high.
Best Donna Richoux
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[nq:1]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results. As those who've been watching will ... that unfortunate problem of Google's erratic estimates. "for my wife and I" 6890 "for my wife and me" 3360 1:2[/nq]
This has been an interesting item to follow up on (upon?). I used "of my x and I/me" just for grins, and I found similar results. Some percenta
This has been an interesting item to follow up on (upon?). I used "of my x and I/me" just for grins, and I found similar results. Some percenta
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While it was 27/11/03 10:16 am throughout the UK, Donna Richoux sprinkled little black dots on a white screen, and they fell thus:
[nq:1]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results. As those who've been watching will know, it is rare to find a "mistake" outnumbering the "standard" usage on the Web[/nq]
Define "standard". Just thinking about it
[nq:1]Still musing about this pronoun question, I ran some searches with some surprising results. As those who've been watching will know, it is rare to find a "mistake" outnumbering the "standard" usage on the Web[/nq]
Define "standard". Just thinking about it
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