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Bepleased Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

For an old question to set the record straight

Hi,
The below of you answered to my question “As far as I can / as far as I know?” in 7th April 2012.

Mister Micawber:
( 1 ) I'll help you, as far as I can. (Does it mean: I'll help you to the greatest degree in which my helping you is possible. -- Yes.

( 2 ) As far as I know, they're coming by car. (Does it mean: That thing is to the degree in which it is made known to me.)
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The “in which” should be changed into the “when”, isn’t it?

For this there are two causes.

1) The “as far as I can” stands for “for all I can” and the “for” = in regard to.
And the pictogram of it is:
I’ll help you
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In regard to / for all you can

2) As far as I can--------means that the degree of “I’ll help you” is worth the degree of “I can”.

And the pictogram of it is:

I’ll help you
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The degree of “I can”
Worth
(To be)
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To the degree

So the pictogram means what the sentence says that “I’ll help you to the degree when my helping you is possible.”

Cases studies-----we can see it is a way to put the idea into “as well as”.

Hoover wanted men who could handle a teacup as well as a tommy’gun.

The first “as”----- standing for “to the degree”.
The second “as”-----standing for “in comparisons”

[handle a tommy’gun] as an old thing;
[handle a teacup] as a new thing

The new thing is as well / to the degree existing as (the degree of) the old thing.
The new thing to the worth of its own degree is connected with the degree of the old thing.

The pictogram of one is:
The new thing
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As the degree of the old thing.....connected with the degree of the old thing
Existing
As well /To the degree

The pictogram of another is:

The degree of the old thing
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Connected with
Is
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The worth of the degree of the new thing

Thanks a lot for your help!
  

Top answer

bepleased The “in which” should be changed into the “when”, isn’t it? Do you mean to suggest that better paraphrases would be: I'll help you to the greatest degree when my helping you is possible. That thing is to the degree when it is made known to me.

  • bepleased The “in which” should be changed into the “when”, isn’t it?
  • Do you mean to suggest that better paraphrases would be: I'll help you to the greatest degree when my helping you is possible.
  • That thing is to the degree when it is made known to me.
  • If so, the answer is no.
  • I don't really understand the purpose of most of the rest of your message.
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bepleasedThe “in which” should be changed into the “when”, isn’t it?
Do you mean to suggest that better paraphrases would be:

I'll help you to the greatest degree when my helping you is possible.
That thing is to the degree when it is made known to me.

If so, the answer is no.

I don't really under
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Hi,

Maybe it is my trouble. And let me think about it again and try to make it clear to you.


But there is some ready-made definitions or it can provide a good footnote with me.

1) I'll help you, as far as I can.

[as far as]----to the degree that I can

So its pictograme is :

I'll help you
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I'm afraid I do not understand your "pictograms".
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Hi,
The degree of qualities, feelings, abilities is to the accompaniment of the degree of another thing.
-----so the degree of qualities must be under the degree of another thing.
In "I'll help you as far as I can", the degree of "my helping you" is to the accompaniment of the degree of "I can". So "as far" deserving / receiving "as I can", and its position like this:

I'll hel

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