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Hans51 Posted 12 years ago
Grammar
Flap sound for /t/ and /d/
I have learned that /t/ sounds the same as /d/ like water[w?:t?r], [w?:d?r] and it is called a flap sound but to my ears, /t/ does not sound like /d/ at all and it sounds more like /L/. What do you native English speakers think?
Or I think that /d/ also has a flap sound like /t/ has like daddy, in which 'dd' does not sound like /d/ and here 'dd' and 't' in water sounds the same in American English usually, right?
So my conclusion is that /t/ and /d/ sound the same when they are flap sounds and it means that they all lose their original sounds and create a new sound called flap sound, right?
What do you native English speakers think?
Thank you so much in advance.
Or I think that /d/ also has a flap sound like /t/ has like daddy, in which 'dd' does not sound like /d/ and here 'dd' and 't' in water sounds the same in American English usually, right?
So my conclusion is that /t/ and /d/ sound the same when they are flap sounds and it means that they all lose their original sounds and create a new sound called flap sound, right?
What do you native English speakers think?
Thank you so much in advance.
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Well, I don't think that the 't' of 'water' sounds like /l/. Flap 't' (/d/) occurs in most speakers' natural conversation between vowel sounds ('See you later'; 'It's a pretty dress') and between a vowel sound and syllabic /l/ ('a little bottle'; 'a book title'). The recognizable strength of /d/ over a stopped /t/ varies considerably with the speaker.
- Well, I don't think that the 't' of 'water' sounds like /l/.
- Flap 't' (/d/) occurs in most speakers' natural conversation between vowel sounds ('See you later'; 'It's a pretty dress') and between a vowel sound and syllabic /l/ ('a little bottle'; 'a book title').
- The recognizable strength of /d/ over a stopped /t/ varies considerably with the speaker.
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Well, I don't think that the 't' of 'water' sounds like /l/.
Flap 't' (/d/) occurs in most speakers' natural conversation between vowel sounds ('See you later'; 'It's a pretty dress') and between a vowel sound and syllabic /l/ ('a little bottle'; 'a book title'). The recognizable strength of /d/ over a stopped /t/ varies considerably with the speaker.
Flap 't' (/d/) occurs in most speakers' natural conversation between vowel sounds ('See you later'; 'It's a pretty dress') and between a vowel sound and syllabic /l/ ('a little bottle'; 'a book title'). The recognizable strength of /d/ over a stopped /t/ varies considerably with the speaker.
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Hans51/t/ does not sound like /d/ at all and it sounds more like /L/. What do you native English speakers think?I don't think you'll find a native speaker who thinks /t/ ever sounds like /L/.
When "t", "tt", "d", or "dd" occurs at the end of a stressed syllable, it becomes "the flapped R" sound, so called because it is the pronunciation of the letter
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Don't know if you're interested in BrE pronunciation too, but in "standard" BrE, words like "ladder" and "latter", or "medal" and "metal", are quite distinct. Ditto for "She said a book... " and "She set a book..."
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