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First report from Philadelphia
Been in Philadelphia only four days now, and already spotted in the wild:
(O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only in words like "caught" but in "on" and "off" as well, and
the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone".
Will keep the group updated as I spot more.
-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom
(O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only in words like "caught" but in "on" and "off" as well, and
the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone".
Will keep the group updated as I spot more.
-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom
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[nq:1]Been in Philadelphia only four days now, and already spotted in the wild: (O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only in words like "caught" but in "on" and "off" as well,[/nq] Interesting that "on" has the caught vowel in Philadelphia, for in New York it has the "cot" vowel, unlike "off" (which is in the 'off' class). [nq:1]the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone". " too.
- [nq:1]Been in Philadelphia only four days now, and already spotted in the wild: (O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only in words like "caught" but in "on" and "off" as well,[/nq] Interesting that "on" has the caught vowel in Philadelphia, for in New York it has the "cot" vowel, unlike "off" (which is in the 'off' class).
- [nq:1]the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone".
- " too.
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[nq:1]Been in Philadelphia only four days now, and already spotted in the wild: (O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only in words like "caught" but in "on" and "off" as well,[/nq]
Interesting that "on" has the caught vowel in Philadelphia, for in New York it has the "cot" vowel, unlike "off" (which is in the 'off' class).
[nq:1]the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone".
Interesting that "on" has the caught vowel in Philadelphia, for in New York it has the "cot" vowel, unlike "off" (which is in the 'off' class).
[nq:1]the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone".
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[nq:1]Been in Philadelphia only four days now, and already spotted in the wild: (O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only ... the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone". Will keep the group updated as I spot more.[/nq]
Say, as long as you are in Penna, maybe you could check these out. (I think the spelling of names with 8 letters should probably includ 5 or 6 Zs (interconsonan
Say, as long as you are in Penna, maybe you could check these out. (I think the spelling of names with 8 letters should probably includ 5 or 6 Zs (interconsonan
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[nq:1]Say, as long as you are in Penna, maybe you could check these out.[/nq]
Note, of course, that Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are in two very different geographical and linguistic regions (and distant, as anyone who's driven the length of Pennsylvania knows).
[nq:1]Our realtor thought I might benefit with some homework...Hicksville, here we come, ha, ha, ha. But funny t
[nq:1]Say, as long as you are in Penna, maybe you could check these out.[/nq]
Note, of course, that Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are in two very different geographical and linguistic regions (and distant, as anyone who's driven the length of Pennsylvania knows).
[nq:1]Our realtor thought I might benefit with some homework...Hicksville, here we come, ha, ha, ha. But funny t
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[nq:1]Been in Philadelphia only four days now, and already spotted in the wild: (O@) for the "caught" vowel, not only ... the famous Philadephia o, (@w), in words like "boat" and "cone". Will keep the group updated as I spot more.[/nq]
The short "o" is not always the same in Philly; the locals call wieners something like "hat dO@gz" using the "a" of "rat" in the 1st word.
The short "o" is not always the same in Philly; the locals call wieners something like "hat dO@gz" using the "a" of "rat" in the 1st word.
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[nq:1]The short "o" is not always the same in Philly; the locals call wieners something like "hat dO@gz" using the "a" of "rat" in the 1st word.[/nq]
Not the "a" of "rat", of course; but, as I mentioned in another post, the Philly short-o as in "cot" and "hot" does seem to be uncommonly fronted. "Dog" in Philly is in the "off" class - that is, the class of words that historically had short-o b
Not the "a" of "rat", of course; but, as I mentioned in another post, the Philly short-o as in "cot" and "hot" does seem to be uncommonly fronted. "Dog" in Philly is in the "off" class - that is, the class of words that historically had short-o b
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} You know the three rivers by name.
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I've known that for more than half a century: the Seneca and the Oneida join to form the Oswego (Largest (or Fourth Largest (I forget)) River in America That Flows North). That's coney country!
R. J. Valentine
} You know the three rivers by name.
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I've known that for more than half a century: the Seneca and the Oneida join to form the Oswego (Largest (or Fourth Largest (I forget)) River in America That Flows North). That's coney country!
R. J. Valentine
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[nq:1]... } You know the three rivers by name. ... I've known that for more than half a century: the Seneca and the Oneida join to form the Oswego (Largest (or Fourth Largest (I forget)) River in America That Flows North). That's coney country![/nq]
The three Rivers are the East River, the North River, and the Harlem River. None of them are rivers, but they're Rivers.
The three Rivers are the East River, the North River, and the Harlem River. None of them are rivers, but they're Rivers.
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[nq:2]The short "o" is not always the same in Philly; ... dO@gz" using the "a" of "rat" in the 1s=t word.[/nq]
[nq:1]Not the "a" of "rat", of course; but, as I mentioned in another post, the Philly short-o as in "cot" and "hot" does seem to be uncommonly fronted.[/nq]
Interesting. When I pay attention to my "cot" vowel I am always shocked at how fronted it sounds, even though it's hardly t
[nq:1]Not the "a" of "rat", of course; but, as I mentioned in another post, the Philly short-o as in "cot" and "hot" does seem to be uncommonly fronted.[/nq]
Interesting. When I pay attention to my "cot" vowel I am always shocked at how fronted it sounds, even though it's hardly t
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} The three Rivers are the East River, the North River, and the Harlem } River. None of the
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}> I've known that for more than half a century: the Seneca and the Oneida }> join to form the Oswego (Largest (or Fourth Largest (I forget)) River in }> America That Flows North). That's coney country! }
} The three Rivers are the East River, the North River, and the Harlem } River. None of the
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} In the various and sundry accents of New York City English (The Dialect So } Nice They Named It NYCE), "dog" is the only -og sort of word (other than } the pseudoderivative 'dogma') that gets the "caught" vowel. All others } have "cot". I get the sense that this is not typical of CINC AmE dialects.
It's true enough of them (nice nod to Dave BTW). Sometimes the "dog" gets pushed
} In the various and sundry accents of New York City English (The Dialect So } Nice They Named It NYCE), "dog" is the only -og sort of word (other than } the pseudoderivative 'dogma') that gets the "caught" vowel. All others } have "cot". I get the sense that this is not typical of CINC AmE dialects.
It's true enough of them (nice nod to Dave BTW). Sometimes the "dog" gets pushed
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