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Anonymous Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Finite clauses

can someone help me pick out all the finite subordinate clauses from the following sentences?!!

1.Moscow could not control the articles foreigners wrote once thry retured home but it could control the foreigners it admitted.

2.Although I slep on a flock pillow and made wide detours round lilac trees, the 'asthma attcks' which were to assail me for the next ten years persisted.

3. Tom and Mary sat at the back of the room with the self-conscious air of men who suspect that they should be taking part in the nearby drama but who wonder which rule they should play.

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Sure, we'll help you-- you try to pick them out, and we'll tell you if you are right. We'd like to see you make an effort first.

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1.Moscow could not control the articles (that) foreigners wrote once [the foreigners] retured home but it could control the foreigners (that) it admitted.

(that): relative clause
once: adverb of time
(that): relative clause

2.Although I slept on a flock pillow and (I) made wide detours round lilac trees, the 'asthma attcks' whi
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Hi Jimmy-- and welcome to English Forums. I made your typeset above bigger so I could read it, and this is what I see:


1-- but it could control the foreigners (that) it admitted. You have this whole clause underlined, but it is a coordinate clause, not a subordinate one. (that) it admitted is, as you said, a subordinate clause (modifying foreigners)
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Hello

I am afraid I would be taken as a bit too presumptuous to put another post after Mr Micawber's. But I would like to state my way of parsing your sentences.

1. Moscow could not control the articles [1]that foreigners wrote [2]once they returned home, but it could control the foreigners [3] that it(=Moscow) admitted.
[1] that ... : relative clause. Y
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The analyses of the first and second sentences are correct, but there is a problem with last sentence.

"Tom and Mary sat at the back of the room with the self-conscious air of men who suspect that they should be taking part in the nearby drama but who wonder which rule they should play."

"who suspect that they should be taking part in the nearby drama but who wonder which
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Hello Miriam

I too thought the 'that-clause and the 'which'-clause in the sentence # 3 are objective noun clauses. But the questioner seems to have been taught to call them as 'complement clause'. Actually some grammarians classify objective noun clauses as verb's complement clauses. Please visit [url=
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I would modify the sentence slightly:

"Tom and Mary sat at the back of the room with the self-conscious air of men who suspect that they should be taking part in the nearby drama but (who) wonder which role they should play."

In fact, I'd change it still further:

"Tom and Mary sat at the back of the room with the self-conscious air of people who s
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Hi, Paco.

It is true that objects may be called "complements". Also, the core predicate of a proposition may be a verb, adjective, noun phrase or prepositional phrase. These terms are used semantically here.You have as well arguments, propositions, predicators, experiencer role, thematic role, etc.

In syntactic analysis things might be confusing if we used this terminology. There
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Hello Miriam

I know what you mean. One of the problem we are facing here is we don't know in what way and in what terms our questioners are taught English grammar in their schools.

paco
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MrPedantic,

I agree the sentence can be improved (most sentences can, if not all). But if the person who started the thread was given that sentence to analyse written exactly as it was posted here, then I would stick to it. Even without the fine tuning we understand what it means, and perhaps Jimmychoo cannot take the liberty to change the sentence. Also, even with

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