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Persian Learner Posted 9 years ago
Grammar

Finite clause

Hi.

The person to ask about going to New Zealand is Beck.


The underlined part is a non-finite clause. What would be the finite version?

  

Top answer

" as an object of the preposition.

  • " as an object of the preposition.
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Persian Learnerabout going to New Zealand

It's a prepositional phrase with gerundial "going to..." as an object of the preposition.

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Persian LearnerWhat would be the finite version?

There isn't one. Or at least there isn't one which is not horribly awkward.

The person to ask about the process by which [someone / anyone / a person / a traveler] goes to New Zealand is Beck.

CJ

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"Going to New Zealand" is a very general idea.

It could mean the ways to travel to New Zealand, what you need to know before you go, what clothes you should take, what to see or visit when you get there and where to stay.

Since it covers so many ideas, there is no finite clause that captures the same meaning for that same sentence. Perhaps the best paraphrase using f

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AnonymousIt's a prepositional phrase with gerundial "going to..." as an object of the preposition.

Anon; That did not answer the poster's question.

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AlpheccaStarsAnon; That did not answer the poster's question.

The poster said that it is a clause (a non-finite one); I say that it is a phrase (a prepositional one). I think that my comment is legitimate.

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AnonymousI say that it is a phrase (a prepositional one).

Does it necessarily mean that it can't be a non-finite clause?

I found the given sentence in the Cambridge Dictionary http://dictionar

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Persian LearnerAs you can see, the emboldened part is identified as a non-finite clause.

Yes, but strictly speaking it's incorrect. Only the underlined parts below are the non-finite clause. That clause is the complement of the preceding preposition.

The person to ask about going to New Zealand is Beck
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CalifJimYes, but strictly speaking it's incorrect.

Could you guess why they have emboldened the whole prepositional phrase while they could simply be more exact with leaving out the preceding preposition? I'd like to know how they think about it. I worry that there may be something that I don't know and go on with this ignorance.

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I'd argue that the noun-finite clause is a form class and the preposional phrase the other one. I say that it is a prepositional phrase whose object is a non-finite clause, i.e., gerundial "going to..." It's a construction in which a form of higher rank, namely a clause (here, a non-finite one), is an element of the form of lower rank, i.e., a phrase, here a preposional one.

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Anonymouspreposional phrase
Anonymous preposional one

Sorry, I have to correct myself instead of "preposional" should be "prepositional" there.

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