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Final "s"
http://evaeaston.com/pr/s-z-Iz-pattern.html
say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's is based on the final sound of a word, before adding -s.
Fundamentally, if the final sound is a voiceless sound, you have to add a voiceless /s/, e.g. stop + /s/, cats, ducks, looks, talks, likes, stops, laughs, its, it's, elects, lasts, paints, reports, starts, toasts, wants, months, depths, lengths, widths;
while if there is a final voiced sound you add a voiced /z/ e.g. call + /z/, arrives, learns, opens, robs, decides, ends, seas, sees, marries, tries, employs, plays, stays, he's, she's, clothes.
Are all the examples right?
In case everything is right, it seemed to me a useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)
say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's is based on the final sound of a word, before adding -s.
Fundamentally, if the final sound is a voiceless sound, you have to add a voiceless /s/, e.g. stop + /s/, cats, ducks, looks, talks, likes, stops, laughs, its, it's, elects, lasts, paints, reports, starts, toasts, wants, months, depths, lengths, widths;
while if there is a final voiced sound you add a voiced /z/ e.g. call + /z/, arrives, learns, opens, robs, decides, ends, seas, sees, marries, tries, employs, plays, stays, he's, she's, clothes.
Are all the examples right?
In case everything is right, it seemed to me a useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)
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html say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's is based on the final sound of a word, before ... In case everything is right, it seemed to me a useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)[/nq] It's basically right, but I would expand it because it doesn't say what happens when the word ends with a sibilant - here it doesn't matter whether the sibilant is voiced or not because you add /iz/ to the stem. Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
- html say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's is based on the final sound of a word, before ...
- In case everything is right, it seemed to me a useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)[/nq] It's basically right, but I would expand it because it doesn't say what happens when the word ends with a sibilant - here it doesn't matter whether the sibilant is voiced or not because you add /iz/ to the stem.
- Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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[nq:1]http://evaeaston.com/pr/s-z-Iz-pattern.html say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's is based on the final sound of a word, before ... In case everything is right, it seemed to me a useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)[/nq]
It's basically right,
It's basically right,
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[nq:2]http://evaeaston.com/pr/s-z-Iz-pattern.html say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's ... useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)[/nq]
[nq:1]It's basically right, but I would expand it because it doesn't say what happens when the word ends with a sib
[nq:1]It's basically right, but I would expand it because it doesn't say what happens when the word ends with a sib
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[nq:2]It's basically right, but I would expand it because it ... voiced or not because you add iz to the stem.[/nq]
[nq:1]/iz/? For me, that's /@z/ in every instance that comes to mind, though there may be exceptions.[/nq]
Actually it's an "i" without a dot in the IPA. For me the quality of this sound is slightly different from the schwa, which you indicate as /@/, although it's equally sh
[nq:1]/iz/? For me, that's /@z/ in every instance that comes to mind, though there may be exceptions.[/nq]
Actually it's an "i" without a dot in the IPA. For me the quality of this sound is slightly different from the schwa, which you indicate as /@/, although it's equally sh
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[nq:2]http://evaeaston.com/pr/s-z-Iz-pattern.html say/z/ that the pronunciation of written -s, -es, 's ... useful bit of information, so I wanted to share :-)[/nq]
[nq:1]It's basically right,[/nq]
Good! And the rule is so simple, after all! I don't how I could possibly never
[nq:1]It's basically right,[/nq]
Good! And the rule is so simple, after all! I don't how I could possibly never
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[nq:2]iz? For me, that's /@z/ in every instance that comes to mind, though there may be exceptions.[/nq]
[nq:1]Actually it's an "i" without a dot in the IPA. For me the quality of this sound is slightly different from the schwa, which you indicate as /@/, although it's equally short and like the schwa is never emphasised.[/nq]
Yes, I'm familiar with the sound that you mean - akin to the sc
[nq:1]Actually it's an "i" without a dot in the IPA. For me the quality of this sound is slightly different from the schwa, which you indicate as /@/, although it's equally short and like the schwa is never emphasised.[/nq]
Yes, I'm familiar with the sound that you mean - akin to the sc
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[nq:2]Actually it's an "i" without a dot in the IPA. ... it's equally short and like the schwa is never emphasised.[/nq]
[nq:1]Yes, I'm familiar with the sound that you mean - akin to the schwa in that it occurs only in ... identically - as /'wA. tS@z/. I don't know if you're rhotic, but how would you characterise your pronunciation of these?[/nq]
I'm a rhotic speaker, being from Ireland.
[nq:1]Yes, I'm familiar with the sound that you mean - akin to the schwa in that it occurs only in ... identically - as /'wA. tS@z/. I don't know if you're rhotic, but how would you characterise your pronunciation of these?[/nq]
I'm a rhotic speaker, being from Ireland.
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[nq:2]Yes, I'm familiar with the sound that you mean - ... rhotic, but how would you characterise your pronunciation of these?[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm a rhotic speaker, being from Ireland. However this isn't where I get the notation. I'm a teacher of English as a foreign language and all my textbooks use this notation. Regards, Einde O'Callaghan[/nq]
In the same way that they all give the alternati
[nq:1]I'm a rhotic speaker, being from Ireland. However this isn't where I get the notation. I'm a teacher of English as a foreign language and all my textbooks use this notation. Regards, Einde O'Callaghan[/nq]
In the same way that they all give the alternati
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[nq:1]it, >> for example, in the word "report", which I would render /ri'pO:t/ >> in ASCII IPA. I hadn't before ... For me, this is a schwa. >> you're >> rhotic, but how would you characterise your pronunciation of >> these?[/nq]
[nq:2]I'm a rhotic speaker, being from Ireland. However this isn't ... and all my textbooks use this notation. Regards, Einde O'Callagha
[nq:2]I'm a rhotic speaker, being from Ireland. However this isn't ... and all my textbooks use this notation. Regards, Einde O'Callagha
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[nq:2]it, >> for example, in the word "report", which I ... t, d and id, the last with i not /@/.[/nq]
[nq:1]Hmm. I'm going to have to watch out for this, I can see. I don't as yet recall seeing an ... all go for /i/, I may have to consider pointing out to my students that this doesn't represent my pronunciation.[/nq]
I wouldn't worry about it. Very few of us have pronunciation that
[nq:1]Hmm. I'm going to have to watch out for this, I can see. I don't as yet recall seeing an ... all go for /i/, I may have to consider pointing out to my students that this doesn't represent my pronunciation.[/nq]
I wouldn't worry about it. Very few of us have pronunciation that
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[nq:2]it, >> for example, in the word "report", which I ... t, d and id, the last with i not /@/.[/nq]
[nq:1]Hmm. I'm going to have to watch out for this, I can see. I don't as yet recall seeing an ... all go for /i/, I may have to consider pointing out to my students that this doesn't represent my pronunciation.[/nq]
Mmm, where are you from? My **** is more or less RP, and I'd use /
[nq:1]Hmm. I'm going to have to watch out for this, I can see. I don't as yet recall seeing an ... all go for /i/, I may have to consider pointing out to my students that this doesn't represent my pronunciation.[/nq]
Mmm, where are you from? My **** is more or less RP, and I'd use /
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