Fetus as "doer"?

0 No, it's the mother... I think an unborn baby can't do such things him/herself! 0-

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01cite10Pieanne12cite10No, it's the mother... I think an unborn baby can't do such things him/herself!12blockquote

10Mm. How about here?02br
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0Then I was wrong! 05000 And you have your answer...010id1

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01cite10Pieanne12cite10Then I was wrong! 15010 And you have your answer...12br
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10Just because one or two people used it, doesn't make it correct.010id1

0Better wait for a native's opinion, Milky.0-

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01cite10Milky12cite10Can we say "the baby/fetus miscarried/aborted"?12blockquote

10"I'll tell thee what, thou damned tripe-visaged rascal, an the child I now go with do miscarry, thou wert better thou hadst struck thy mother, thou paper-faced villain." (Henry IV, Part 2, Shakespeare)02br
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11cite20Milky22cite20Can we say "the baby/fetus miscarried/aborted"?22blockquote

20"I'll tell thee what, thou damned tripe-visaged rascal, an the child I now go with do miscarry, thou wert better thou hadst struck thy mother, thou paper-faced v

0 Please tell us who is "we" when you use "we".02br
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01. The mother miscarried. (Agent-subject + intrans.)02br
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002. The baby miscarried. (Patient-subject + intrans.)02br
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00Sense #2 is marked "obsolete" in the Shorter Oxford; but it clearly isn't. 02br
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00Perhaps we could say therefore that the true sense of "miscarry" (i.e. the sense in which it is used) is "participate in a