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Famous Russian Generals in English Language Analogies: Molotov and Potemkin

Famous Russian Generals in English Language Analogies: Molotov and Potemkin

Potemkin as in 'Potemkin Village' a false display for a head of state, to gain prestige.
Potemkin was a general in the time of 'Kitty the Great'. * Other uses: Potemkin Economy ... an economy that seems prosperous, but is propped up by artificial means or constructs.
* Enron ran its own Potemkin Economy before its demise.

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Signage
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BOYCOTT
POTIMKIN
DEFENSE
STRATAGY
The military looks good to the ruler, but it cannot at all defend.

AMERICAS
BLACK
EARTH
PROVINCES, or FARM STATES
HAVE
POTEMKIN
DEFENCES
Homeland Defence Shoddy In Iowa, Missouri, etc... (!)

There are ways of implying usage of a Molotov Cocktail without the use of the second word.
Molotov was a WWII general.
* One could say the economically poor rebels were obsessed with a Molotov defence system.
* Oh the entire 911 affair was just a series of messy Molotov deflagrations ... more destructive means exist.
deflagrations = burnings, an ironically clear usage
  

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[/nq] Unfortunately, that's not true. Vyacheslav Molotov was never a general. He held various high civilian posts in the Soviet Union.

  • [/nq] Unfortunately, that's not true.
  • Vyacheslav Molotov was never a general.
  • He held various high civilian posts in the Soviet Union.
  • He was foreign minister and for a time the equivalent of a prime minister.
  • He is said to have ordered the production of what is known as the Molotov cocktail for use by the Soviet Army in the Second World War.
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[nq:1]Molotov was a WWII general.[/nq]
Unfortunately, that's not true. Vyacheslav Molotov was never a general. He held various high civilian posts in the Soviet Union. He was foreign minister and for a time the equivalent of a prime minister. He is said to have ordered the production of what is known as the Molotov cocktail for use by the Soviet Army in the Second World War. The Soviets did no
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[nq:2]Molotov was a WWII general.[/nq]
[nq:1]Unfortunately, that's not true. Vyacheslav Molotov was never a general. He held various high civilian posts in the Soviet Union. ... because Molotov was a well-known political figure in Germany. Other sources say the Finns were the originators of the expression.[/nq]
The item itself goes back to the Spanish Civil War, if not earlier, but the nam
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[nq:1]Famous Russian Generals in English Language Analogies: Molotov andPotemkin[/nq]
Well, in the Crimean War, the British side had General Cardigan, after whom cardigans are named, and Lord Raglan, after whom Raglan sleeves are named. And, commanding the Russian battery at the charge of the Light Brigade was Major Pullova (not a general, alas).
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Father Ignatius had it:
[nq:2]Famous Russian Generals in English Language Analogies: Molotov and[/nq]
[nq:1]Potemkin Well, in the Crimean War, the British side had General Cardigan, after whom cardigans are named, and Lord Raglan, after whom Raglan sleeves are named. And, commanding the Russian battery at the charge of the Light Brigade was Major Pullova (not a general, alas).[/nq]
Not
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[nq:2] Unfortunately, that's not true. Vyacheslav Molotov was never a ... sources say the Finns were the originators of the expression.[/nq]
[nq:1]The item itself goes back to the Spanish Civil War, if not earlier, but the name comes from the Winter ... until the events of Budapest 1956, around the time when Molotov was downgraded from Prime Minister to Ambassador to Mongolia.[/nq]
That's
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[nq:2]The item itself goes back to the Spanish Civil War, ... Molotov was downgraded from Prime Minister to Ambassador to Mongolia.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's rather a slur. Most Mongolians regarded it as a promotion and reward for services rendered.[/nq]
I'm reminded by the jokes about being made "Secretary of State for Northern Ireland" back in the Thatcher era.
Can anyone provide AmE (etc) e
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[nq:2]That's rather a slur. Most Mongolians regarded it as a promotion and reward for services rendered.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm reminded by the jokes about being made "Secretary of State for Northern Ireland" back in the Thatcher era.[/nq]
The best-remembered of the Soviet ones is probably Malenkov, another former Prime Minister and First Secretary of the Party, who was made manager of a power sta
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[nq:1]Famous Russian Generals in English Language Analogies: Molotov and Potemkin Potemkin as in 'Potemkin Village' a false display for a head of state, to gain prestige. Potemkin was a general in the time of 'Kitty the Great'.[/nq]
Potemkin was of use to the great Kitty in another way as well.
[nq:1]There are ways of implying usage of a Molotov Cocktail without the use of the second word.
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[nq:1]The best-remembered of the Soviet ones is probably Malenkov, another former Prime Minister and First Secretary of the Party, who ... The significant thing, of course, is that, unlike all previous Soviet leaders removed from top jobs, they were not shot.[/nq]
The pope knows the trick too:
a bishop in the Netherlands who had made himself quite impossible was 'promoted' to bishop of Ice
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[nq:2]The term did not become generally known in the English-speaking ... Molotov was downgraded from Prime Minister to Ambassador to Mongolia.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's rather a slur. Most Mongolians regarded it as a promotion and reward for services rendered.[/nq]
It is indeed a fact that the ever friendly socialist brother states (Union of Sovjet Socialist Republics and Peoples Republic of Chin

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