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Hi,

On a video the trainer says, "... 80% of your persuasion has done before you open your f############ing mouth.

I understand this word in this context is emphatic only without intentionally being insults from the speaker. However I would be offended if anyone said this to me, referred to my mouth in this way.

There are at least 30-40 people who pay on the seminar but it seem those people are not offended and calm. Do you think they are really not offended in such a context if you could imagine?

Do people think they have to accept that as the trainer's manerism? If I said no on the spot, would people think I was trying to make a fuss?

How is this acceptable for the mainstrean of native speakers?

Thanks!

Clive · Accepted Answer

"... 80% of your persuasion is done before you open your f############ing mouth.

The word is more common than it used to be, but my advice is to avoid using it.

It can still offend people, and does not make the speaker sound professional or business-like..

You won't (I hope) find it anywhere on this Forum.

CalifJim · Answer

iclearwaterI understand this word in this context is emphatic only without intentionally being insults from the speaker.

True. There are not necessarily any insults directed at the audience.

iclearwaterThere are at least 30-40 people who ~~pay on~~ are paying for the seminar, but it seems those people are calm and not offended. ~~and calm.~~

Some people hear this kind of crude language so often that they become deaf to it.

iclearwaterDo you think they are really not offended in such a context

Yes, I don't think they are really offended, at least not enough to mention it.

iclearwaterDo people think they have to accept that as the trainer's mannerism?

Maybe some do, but not likely the majority.

iclearwaterIf I said no on the spot, would people think I was trying to make a fuss? I think you're asking this:
If I made an objection on the spot, would people think I was making a fuss?

Yes, I believe they would think you were making a fuss. If you approach the trainer privately later, they wouldn't know about your objection so they would have no reaction to it at all. The trainer might think you were making a fuss, or the trainer might be embarrassed and apologize. There is no way to predict what will happen in these situations. If you have an opportunity to take a survey at the end of your training in which you can make anonymous comments, you should certainly mention this there. Lacking that, find out who the trainer's boss is and write them a letter about this after the training is finished.

iclearwaterHow is this acceptable for the mainstream of native speakers?

It is not acceptable. Yet it happens.

CJ

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