Expected or foreseen

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Hello everyone,I would like to know which word is better when talking about the use of a machine:a) foreseen uses b) expected uses            "The use of the machine in order to work with other materials or to obtain production values higher than the foreseen limits is considered as an IMPROPER USE". (this is a translation of my own, so feel free to correct any mistake).Thank you for your help.

Mr Wordy · Accepted Answer

You're asking about "foreseen/expected uses", yet the text says "foreseen limits". Which is it?

I don't understand what you mean by "production values". This term usually refers to quality or style of production in creative arts like TV and film. It's hard to see how higher production values would not always be a good thing, or why you would ever want to limit them.

For "other materials" to make sense, you must have previously said which materials the machine is designed to work.

You don't need "considered as". "considered" by itself is OK.

Tania77maria · Answer

Mr Wordy, thank you for your help.

I translated the sentence from Spanish to English. I chose foreseen uses but I don't know if that's correct. What would a native speaker say? Would you say "foreseen use" or "expected use"? or maybe both indistinctly?

Regarding "production values" I tried to refer to the process of making goods to be sold. Is there another word to express that?

So, what do you think about my next attempt? (I still use production because I don't know other words )

It is considered IMPROPER USE:

-Its use in order to work with other materials than the appropriate ones for the machine.

-its use in order to obtain higher production values than the foreseen production limit values.

Does it sound better? Is it better understood?

Thank you again for your help.

Mr Wordy · Answer

tania77mariaI translated the sentence from Spanish to English. I chose foreseen uses but I don't know if that's correct.

You asked about "foreseen uses", and you may have intended to write "foreseen uses", but if you look back at your post you will see that you actually wrote "foreseen limits". Your question was unclear in this respect, which is why I asked which you meant.

tania77mariaIt is considered IMPROPER USE:
-Its use in order to work with other materials than the appropriate ones for the machine.
-its use in order to obtain higher production values than the foreseen production limit values.

This is ungrammatical. You can say:*

It is considered IMPROPER USE:
-To work with ...
-To obtain ...

"... to work with materials other than the appropriate ones for the machine" is correct English (note slight rearrangement of words). However, assuming this is a warning notice or rule/regulation, it seems too vague to be useful or meaningful unless it is also specified which materials are "appropriate". Otherwise, how does anyone know? What seems "appropriate" to one person might seem inappropriate to another.

As I mentioned, I do not understand what you mean by "production values". This is almost certainly not the correct term. Try to say it in another way, using more words if necessary, just so that it's possible to understand what you mean. You don't by any chance mean "production quantities", do you?

*Edit: But if this is a warning notice on a machine, it would be stronger to say "DO NOT: ..."

Tania77maria · Answer

That's right, I wrote foreseen limits in the sentence. Sorry about that, I think I'm confusing you.

Let's see... FORESEEN USES (it is the title of a paragraph). Immediately after that comes:

"The machine will not be used for different functions from those specified in the sales contract"

Then an new section appears which is UNFORESEEN OR IMPROPER USES

(Here it comes the text above) (Now I have done some modifications)

It is considered IMPROPER USE:
-To work with other kind of boxes than the ones for which the machine is intended for. (now I see that since the machine only works with boxes, better saying boxes than material).
-To obtain higher production quantities than the foreseen production limit quantity. (this last sentence sound too repetitive).

Again, thank you Mr. Wordy. Your help is really appreciated.

Mr Wordy · Answer

The machine must not be used for purposes other than those specified in the sales contract.

...

It is considered IMPROPER USE:
- To work with types of boxes other than those for which the machine is intended.

- To produce quantities greater than the foreseen production limits.

In order for this regulation to be meaningfully enforceable, it must somewhere be specified which types of box the machine is intended for, and what are the foreseen limits.

Tania77maria · Answer

Thank you again.

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