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Infinity Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Everything happened

0 "Why don't we call everyting happened later that night a misfortune?" 02br
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00Is the sentence above grammatically correct? Or do we need a relative pronoun after 'everything'? 02br
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0 "...everything that happened..." would be appropriate. 0-
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0 Thanks, bermbits. 02br
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00Then, should I say "...everything that happened later the night..." instead? Otherwise, woudn't it sound strange by saying "...everything that happened later that night..."? 02br
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00Also, I'd like to aske on which cases a relative pronoun can be omitted when used as the subject of a defining clause. 0-
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0 bermbits - can you tell me if your screen name means anything? Recently it popped into my head and I couldn't remember where I had seen it. I went through half a day muttering "bermbits? bermbits?" to myself before I saw it again here and realized that this is where I had seen the word. 02br
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00infiinity - don't worry about repeating the word "that" in "everything th
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0 Thanks khoff, 02br
00May I ask if it is possible to omit 'that' in conversational English? 0-
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0 Certainly "that" is sometimes omitted in conversational English: 02br
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00What is it [that] you want? 02br
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00Tell me everything [that] he said. 02br
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00But I don't think you can omit either "that" in "everything that happened later that night..." 02br
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00I can't really explain when it can be omitted
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0 Thanks khoff! 02br
00For instance, can you say 02br
00"Could you tell me everything happened that night in your house?" 02br
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00"Everything happened later that night was a miracle." 0-
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0 "that" (relative pronoun) is left out all the time in everyday English. But you absolutely 01i00cannot02i00 leave it out when it is the subject of its clause!!! 02br
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00It has to be "everything that happened ..." because "that" is the subject; it is "that" that happened, "that" that did the happening! 050010id1
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0 Thanks CJ! 02br
00Is it possible to say this? 02br
00"There is someone wants to see you." 02br
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00Or even in conversational English, we have to say 02br
00"There is someone who wants to see you." 0-
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0 CJ wrote: 02br
00But you absolutely cannot leave it out when it is the subject of its clause!!! 02br
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00^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 02br
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00I used to hold to that belief too. 02br
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00I do agree with Jim that a zero relativizer or dropped relative pronoun is not at all common "when it is the subject of its clause" but
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0 Thanks Katsudon! 02br
00Is it also possible when a relative pronoun is followed by a noun phrase? 02br
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00For instance, 02br
00"That is my brother John you think used to go out with your sister Mary." 0-

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