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Eladio Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Even... for yet/ Is there some redundance here?

Please, explain to me if is there some redundance in the second sentence?
I already knew about your car. The problem is it isn’t even paid for yet.
I simply cannot understand the usage of "for yet" here if the word "even" have been already used.
Thank you in advance.
Eladio
  

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Hi, Eladio, You have two things here: 1) the verb "to pay for", used in the passive voice: the car is not paid for ( the future owner has to pay some more money before he/she owns the car) 2) "not yet", contrary of "already" So, in your sentence, it is: the car is NOT paid for YET, the future owner STILL has to pay some money before he/she owns the car. I'm not sure I'm clear ?

  • Hi, Eladio, You have two things here: 1) the verb "to pay for", used in the passive voice: the car is not paid for ( the future owner has to pay some more money before he/she owns the car) 2) "not yet", contrary of "already" So, in your sentence, it is: the car is NOT paid for YET, the future owner STILL has to pay some money before he/she owns the car.
  • I'm not sure I'm clear ?
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Hi, Eladio,
You have two things here:
1) the verb "to pay for", used in the passive voice: the car is not paid for ( the future owner has to pay some more money before he/she owns the car)
2) "not yet", contrary of "already"
So, in your sentence, it is: the car is NOT paid for YET, the future owner STILL has to pay some money before he/she owns the car.
I'm not sure I'm c
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My problem with this sentence is the presence of "even" and "yet" simultaneously in the same sentence. Let's see, may I say?:
The problem is it is not paid for yet. Or:
The problem is it is not even paid.
If the above sentences are both correct (I think so), why I must to say:
The problem is it is not EVEN paid for YET.
I feel there is some redundancy here, but anyway I'
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Even simply stresses the fact that the car isn't paid for. You can do without it, the sentence keeps the same meaning.
Look here's an example:
A friend wants me to take a plane to visit her in ... New York, let's say.
The thing is, I'm broke, I don't have money at all.
So I'll tell her: "I can't buy an airplane ticket, I don't EVEN have money to buy me a sweat shirt."
Mea
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Yes, now everything is clear. And thank you for your time!
Eladio
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You're quite welcome!
PS: I meant sweat shirt, sorry, I got mixed up!
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Another way of looking at it:

Pieanne has just wrecked Eladio's car. Eladio is quite cross. He has no insurance. He says to Pieanne:

1. 'The problem is, it isn’t even paid for yet.'

'It isn't paid for' tells us that Eladio hasn't paid for the car. (We don't know if he's started paying.)

'It isn't paid for yet' tells us that Eladio hasn't finished paying f
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Hello, MrPedantic:
Thank you, your post has been very clearing and added more brightening for me information about the simultaeous appearance of EVEN and YET in a same sentence.
Eladio

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