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Etymology of dolly (platform)

According to Richard Weiner who pinch-hit some years ago for William Safire in the NY Times, "The probable origin {of "dolly" to mean platform} is not a child's word for a small doll, but rather from "doily," the small mat that's put under a dish or other item, like a platform."
I haven't seen the "doily" connection to ""doily" cited anywhere else. Can anyone verify or disprove it?
  

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[nq:1]According to Richard Weiner who pinch-hit some years ago for William Safire in the NY Times, "The probable origin {of ... " I haven't seen the "doily" connection to ""doily" cited anywhere else. [/nq] I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion that the suggestion is nonsense.

  • [nq:1]According to Richard Weiner who pinch-hit some years ago for William Safire in the NY Times, "The probable origin {of ...
  • " I haven't seen the "doily" connection to ""doily" cited anywhere else.
  • [/nq] I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion that the suggestion is nonsense.
  • Neither the sense nor the phonetics match particularly well.
  • The sense of 'dolly' as a 'truck or wheeled platform' is surprisingly recent.
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[nq:1]According to Richard Weiner who pinch-hit some years ago for William Safire in the NY Times, "The probable origin {of ... like a platform." I haven't seen the "doily" connection to ""doily" cited anywhere else. Can anyone verify or disprove it?[/nq]
I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion that the suggestion is nonsense.
Neither the sense nor the phonetics match particularly we
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[nq:2]According to Richard Weiner who pinch-hit some years ago for ... ""doily" cited anywhere else. Can anyone verify or disprove it?[/nq]
[nq:1]I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion that the suggestion is nonsense. Neither the sense nor the ... the original OED, though that does list a number of other tools and machines for which the word was used;[/nq]
The supplement to OED1 has
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[nq:2]According to Richard Weiner who pinch-hit some years ago for ... ""doily" cited anywhere else. Can anyone verify or disprove it?[/nq]
[nq:1]I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion that the suggestion is nonsense. Neither the sense nor the ... I don't have a clear origin for 'dolly' in this sense. But I simply don't believe the 'doily' story. Colin[/nq]
"Doily" is apparently fro
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[nq:2]I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion ... sense. But I simply don't believe the 'doily' story. Colin[/nq]
[nq:1]"Doily" is apparently from a fabric, from a surname. "Dolly" seems to be from the Christian name < "Dorothy". Compare the number of tools and machines referred to as "Jack". But why these two names in particular. Are there others?[/nq]
That's as much as the Century
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[nq:2]"Doily" is apparently from a fabric, from a surname. "Dolly" ... But why these two names in particular. Are there others?[/nq]
[nq:1]That's as much as the Century Dictionary says. (I guess OED got to D before Century did.) But its first meaning, having to do with a mechanism in a mine, is from England![/nq]
But how about this reference:
Early stage productions did not use moveabl
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[nq:2]That's as much as the Century Dictionary says. (I guess ... do with a mechanism in a mine, is from England![/nq]
[nq:1]But how about this reference: Early stage productions did not use moveable scenery as we know it today. This innovation ... Scenery - Evolution from Shakespeare to Pinter Actually, I just made that up myself, but I kinda like it.[/nq]
You should have put it in the fo
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[nq:2]That's as much as the Century Dictionary says. (I guess ... do with a mechanism in a mine, is from England![/nq]
[nq:1]But how about this reference: Early stage productions did not use moveable scenery as we know it today. This innovation ... broke new ground by making extensive use of moveable scenery props to support the story in addition to the libretto.[/nq]
Actually, it doesn't.
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[nq:2]That's as much as the Century Dictionary says. (I guess ... do with a mechanism in a mine, is from England![/nq]
[nq:1]But how about this reference: Early stage productions did not use moveable scenery as we know it today. This innovation ... - Evolution from Shakespeare to Pinter Actually, I just made that up myself, but I kinda like it. Jitze[/nq]
I'm glad you revealed that, howeve
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[nq:2]That's as much as the Century Dictionary says. (I guess ... do with a mechanism in a mine, is from England![/nq]
[nq:1]But how about this reference: Early stage productions did not use moveable scenery as we know it today. This innovation ... - Evolution from Shakespeare to Pinter Actually, I just made that up myself, but I kinda like it. Jitze[/nq]
The OUP needs you Jitze; what the
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[nq:2]I can do neither, but I will offer an opinion ... sense. But I simply don't believe the 'doily' story. Colin[/nq]
[nq:1]"Doily" is apparently from a fabric, from a surname. "Dolly" seems to be from the Christian name < "Dorothy". Compare the number of tools and machines referred to as "Jack". But why these two names in particular. Are there others?[/nq]
Bob? :-)
Dickey.
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