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Vincent Teo Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

enter...noisy class

Can I say,

He enters the noisy class.

When he enters the class, the class is noisy,

While entering the class / classroom, it was noisy.

When entering the class, the class is noisy.
  

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If I asked you to do me only one kindness, Vincent, it would be to avoid the simple present tense. It makes most of your sentences slightly unreal. Do you think that you could do that for me in the future, Vincent?

  • If I asked you to do me only one kindness, Vincent, it would be to avoid the simple present tense.
  • It makes most of your sentences slightly unreal.
  • Do you think that you could do that for me in the future, Vincent?
  • Just one simple thing-- use a different tense and aspect.
  • Use past or future or perfect or progressive: He entered the noisy class.
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If I asked you to do me only one kindness, Vincent, it would be to avoid the simple present tense. It makes most of your sentences slightly unreal. Do you think that you could do that for me in the future, Vincent? Just one simple thing-- use a different tense and aspect. Use past or future or perfect or progressive:

He entered the noisy class.

When he
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Mister MicawberIt makes most of your sentences slightly unreal.
I didn't know it made native speakers feel this way. It always makes me think of it as a story told as it unfolds. Is that what you call unreal, MM?
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It is an uncommon tense and aspect, New2.
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Thanks your advice.

Can I say,

While he entered the class, the pupils are noisy,
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No, the tenses are unmatched and the conjunction is wrong. Use:

When he entered the class, the pupils were noisy.
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Vincent,
I had offered you my honest advice many times in the past basically letting you know that for the past 2 two years you had not made any improvement after all the help you got from the forum because you have chosen an incorrect method. If you had used the time to correct your English basics instead of copying patterns which you don't understand, you wouldn't make the simple tense erro
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Thanks your advice. I have learnt more from this website. The most important is I know what is the natural way the native speaker thought or say. That's the only way I learnt from the website. I 'm not afford to buy books instead of using the free usage of Internet. Anyway, thanks your advice, once again!!
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Regardless of reasons, you have not learned correctly, although you may think you have.

Many people can learn languages through immersion which is highly achievable. However,
they may not understand the grammar and mechanics of the language. We can always learn to do things
without understanding the principles. But of course there is a price to pay, and that is when we run in
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Can I say,

He entered the noisy classroom.

When he entered the classroom, the class was noisy
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Yes, those are both OK. You could also say 'were noisy', since some speakers would be thinking about the many children rather than the one group.
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