Enough of/with

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Enough of this stuff! It's nonsense! I'm out of here.
Enough with this stuff! It's nonsense! I'm out of here.

I think the "usual" or "expected" form is "enough of", because I think it's short for "I've had enough of..."
But the version with "with" doesn't sound too bad to me, because I am probably connecting it with similar expressions, like "Down with the Queen!" or "To hell with this stuff! I'll do it tomorrow."

Any advice? Thanks.

AlpheccaStars · Accepted Answer

Kooyeen; I have not run across "enough with" before.  I suppose in an emotional fit it might come out, but then I cannot vouch for anything I might say in an emotional fit. <img class='emoticon' style='Width:19px;Height:19px;' data-delaysrc='https://uat-englishforward-forums-backend.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Emoticons/10.gif' src='https://uat-englishforward-forums-backend.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Emoticons/10.gif' alt='Emotion: embarrassed'/>

Renan torres-rivero · Answer

Hi, pal.
As you said, the common structure is "enough of" something or someone. But, like your feelings towards the "with" expression, saying "enough with this stuff" sounds right to me. However, I think is a matter of usage and frequency. How many speakers of English say "have enough with"? To the extent that a great amount of speakers of a certain standard level of English uses a expression, we can consider it as "idiomatic".
This can be the starting point for "enough with..."

Cheers!

;-)

Kooyeen · Answer

AlpheccaStars I have not run across "enough with" before.

If you take a look on the net, it definitely seems to be used by native speakers, but the problem with the net, Google searches, and all that stuff is that you can't know how "common" something actually is. Yes, it's used, it "seems" ok, but I still suspect "enough of" might be more common, generally speaking. The fact that you don't seem to be very familiar with "enough with" might suggest the same. But then again, some things might just be regional.
Anyway, it's not that important. I just asked this question to see if my "intuition" can sometimes be right (even if I am just a non-native speaker

). I have never consciously come across "enough with", but my brain probably connected it with "to **** with", and told my intuition "hey, it doesn't sound that bad". It turns out it actually seems to be used that way too, but to find out more I felt I had better ask here.

And thanks!

Clive · Answer

Hi,
I exclaim 'Enough with this' (particularly when dealing with certain threads on this Forum

), and rarely 'Enough of this'.

Clive

Kooyeen · Answer

Ok, thanks! <img class='emoticon' style='Width:19px;Height:19px;' data-delaysrc='https://uat-englishforward-forums-backend.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Emoticons/1.gif' src='https://uat-englishforward-forums-backend.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Emoticons/1.gif' alt='Emotion: smile'/>

CalifJim · Answer

KooyeenEnough of this stuff! It's nonsense! I'm out of here.
Enough with this stuff! It's nonsense! I'm out of here.

I think the "usual" or "expected" form is "enough of", because I think it's short for "I've had enough of..."
But the version with "with" doesn't sound too bad to me, because I am probably connecting it with similar expressions, like "Down with the Queen!" or "To **** with this stuff! I'll do it tomorrow."

Any advice? Thanks.

I think your intuition is correct on this. Enough with ... !!! (or Enough of ... !!!) belongs to the list of things we might say when exasperated.

However, enough alone (without either with or of) is the expected form:

I've eaten enough. / I have enough money. / You didn't put enough butter on it.

And enough with won't work in neutral, unemotional situations:

If enough of them come, we'll probably have a really good party. (Never *If enough with them come, ...)

But you already knew all this.

CJ

Kooyeen · Answer

CalifJimBut you already knew all this.

Yes, but thanks anyway! You never know...

Enough of/with

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