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English county

Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county in what state?" This, needless to say, means nothing to me. I recall other evidence that the term "English county" has a meaning of its own to an American, but I can't for the life of me remember where, and I've no idea at the moment of what that meaning would be. Neither OneLook nor Google have revealed any answers as yet.
Here in Britain, it has an unambiguous and literal meaning of a county in England.
So, what do you Americans understand by "English county"?

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Stewart Gordon wrote on 15 Jun 2004: [nq:1]Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county ... has an unambiguous and literal meaning of a county in England. [/nq] Devonshire, for example.

  • Stewart Gordon wrote on 15 Jun 2004: [nq:1]Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county ...
  • has an unambiguous and literal meaning of a county in England.
  • [/nq] Devonshire, for example.
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Stewart Gordon wrote on 15 Jun 2004:
[nq:1]Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county ... has an unambiguous and literal meaning of a county in England. So, what do you Americans understand by "English county"?[/nq]
Devonshire, for example.

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[nq:1]Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county ... has an unambiguous and literal meaning of a county in England. So, what do you Americans understand by "English county"?[/nq]
This American hasn't encountered the phrase in American English. In Nova Scotia people sometimes go to great lengths to distinguish Acadian regions from
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[nq:1]Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county ... to me. I recall other evidence that the term "English county" has a meaning of its own to an American,[/nq]
As far as I know, Americans that are at all familiar with England use the same definition of an English county that you do. There are Americans that don't understand that
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[nq:1]So, what do you Americans understand by "English county"?[/nq]
All it suggests to this American (CUE PATRIOTIC MUSIC) is "a county in England".
Most US states are divided administratively into 'counties', though I believe Louisiana calls the equivalent 'parishes' and, IIRC, Alaska calls them 'boroughs'.
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[nq:1]Some years ago I was asked, by someone over the Internet trying to find out my location, "an English county ... has an unambiguous and literal meaning of a county in England. So, what do you Americans understand by "English county"?[/nq]
Nothing special. Just a county in England. What you probably encountered was somebody who hadn't fully internalized that in some countries there may not
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[nq:1]Most US states are divided administratively into 'counties', though I believe Louisiana calls the equivalent 'parishes' and, IIRC, Alaska calls them 'boroughs'.[/nq]
These are three different levels of division over here.

A county is divided into districts/boroughs - I'm not sure of the distinction here. It typically covers one or a few towns along with surrounding villages, tho
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[nq:2]Most US states are divided administratively into 'counties', though I believe Louisiana calls the equivalent 'parishes' and, IIRC, Alaskacalls them 'boroughs'.[/nq]
[nq:1]These are three different levels of division over here. A county is divided into districts/boroughs - I'm not sure of the distinction here.[/nq]
Boroughs
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Districts can call themselves Boroughs if they like - it is purely a matter of choice. The more urbanised ones tend to use "Borough".

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[nq:1]Districts can call themselves Boroughs if they like - it is purely a matter of choice. The more urbanised ones tend to use "Borough".[/nq]
Is it that simple? I had an idea that Borough was actually a special status granted by Act of Parliament - indeed, representing for the most part a primarily urbanised area.

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[nq:2]Districts can call themselves Boroughs if they like - it is purely a matter of choice. The more urbanised ones tend to use "Borough".[/nq]
[nq:1]Is it that simple? I had an idea that Borough was actually a special status granted by Act of Parliament - indeed, representing for the most part a primarily urbanised area.[/nq]
And how does a borough get to be a "Royal Borough"?

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