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English accent recent?

I've heard that the current educated English accent is only about 150 years old. The one David Niven used and maybe Basil Rathbone and PMs.
Is this true?
I've looked but iddn't find.
Perhaps, can you give me a website to convince someone who says no?
Posters should say where they live, and for which area they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in Western Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis 7 years
Chicago 6 years
Brooklyn, NY 12 years
Baltimore 26 years
  

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[nq:1]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only about 150 years old. The one David Niven used ... this true?

  • [nq:1]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only about 150 years old.
  • The one David Niven used ...
  • this true?
  • I've looked but iddn't find.
  • [/nq] Why not just ask that someone for an example of any country where the prestige accent has managed to stay unchanged for more than 100 years?
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[nq:1]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only about 150 years old. The one David Niven used ... this true? I've looked but iddn't find. Perhaps, can you give me a website to convince someone who says no?[/nq]
Why not just ask that someone for an example of any country where the prestige accent has managed to stay unchanged for more than 100 years? I doubt that he'll find an
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[nq:1]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only about 150 years old. The one David Niven used and maybe Basil Rathbone and PMs.[/nq]
The accent those people used is now out-of-date.
If there is something recognisable as a current educated English accent it is more likely to be 15 rather than 150 years old. However, educated speakers of EnglishE now speak with a variety of
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[nq:1]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only about 150 years old. The one David Niven used and maybe Basil Rathbone and PMs. Is this true?[/nq]
Consult appropriate experts on language e.g. David Crystal.

Because sound recording was not invented until the late 19th century, writing is the only earlier evidence of speech sounds and this is an ambiguous source. Writt
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[nq:2]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only ... one David Niven used and maybe Basil Rathbone and PMs.[/nq]
[nq:1]The accent those people used is now out-of-date. If there is something recognisable as a current educated English accent it ... rather than 150 years old. However, educated speakers of EnglishE now speak with a variety of accents, with regional variations.[/nq
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[nq:2]The accent those people used is now out-of-date. If there ... now speak with a variety of accents, with regional variations.[/nq]
[nq:1]Indeed, and the educated accent of the 1950's, say, to the extent that there was a single accent, is wildly different from today's. Anyone remember Uncle Mac?[/nq]
Miss! Me Miss! Yes Miss.
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Peter wrote on Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:19:46 +0100:
[nq:2]I've heard that the current educated English accent is only ... one David Niven used and maybe Basil Rathbone and PMs.[/nq]
[nq:1]The accent those people used is now out-of-date. If there is something recognisable as a current educated English accent it ... rather than 150 years old. However, educated speakers of EnglishE now speak with
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[nq:2]Indeed, and the educated accent of the 1950's, say, to ... accent, is wildly different from today's. Anyone remember Uncle Mac?[/nq]
[nq:1] Miss! Me Miss! Yes Miss. http://www.turnipnet.com/radio/unclemac.wav Intro; signature tune; then Uncle Mac introducing a song "...let's ... played records reques
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[nq:1]Peter wrote on Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:19:46 +0100:[/nq]
[nq:2]The accent those people used is now out-of-date. If there ... now speak with a variety of accents, with regional variations.[/nq]
[nq:1]Regional variations have been acceptable even in Southern Britain for quite a long time. An educated Scottish accent is no disadvantage and neither was a Lancashire or Yorkshire accent (not d
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[nq:1]'When the Boat Comes In' and 'Close the Coalhouse Door' in Geordieland.[/nq]
I loved that theme song. It always sounded to me like "When the Boot goes in".

Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page.
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[nq:2]'When the Boat Comes In' and 'Close the Coalhouse Door' in Geordieland.[/nq]
[nq:1]I loved that theme song. It always sounded to me like "When the Boot goes in".[/nq]
Nothing like it. "Boat" has two syllables, "boot" has only one.
Ian

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