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Taka Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
ellipsis
(Example)
Things are expensive here, as in Japan.=>Things are expensive here, as they are in Japan.
Then, how would you make the part in red below into a complete as-clause?
Sometimes the self is an author writing thoughts externally on paper...This makes the everyday reference to writing by its author's name—as in "Pascal is on the top shelf"—seem so natural.
Things are expensive here, as in Japan.=>Things are expensive here, as they are in Japan.
Then, how would you make the part in red below into a complete as-clause?
Sometimes the self is an author writing thoughts externally on paper...This makes the everyday reference to writing by its author's name—as in "Pascal is on the top shelf"—seem so natural.
Top answer
Hi Taka I don't really like the ellipsis in your first sentence very much, and you can't really compare the use of "as in" in your sentences. Your first sentence basically compares Japan to here. Your second sentence gives an example -- it does not make a comparison.
- Hi Taka I don't really like the ellipsis in your first sentence very much, and you can't really compare the use of "as in" in your sentences.
- Your first sentence basically compares Japan to here.
- Your second sentence gives an example -- it does not make a comparison.
- The words "as in" form a standard phrase which is used to give an example of something.
- Therefore, in your second sentence, you might expand "as in" to mean " as (it is, for example,) in (the phrase) ".
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Hi Taka
I don't really like the ellipsis in your first sentence very much, and you can't really compare the use of "as in" in your sentences.
Your first sentence basically compares Japan to here.
Your second sentence gives an example -- it does not make a comparison.
The words "as in" form a standard phrase which is used to give
I don't really like the ellipsis in your first sentence very much, and you can't really compare the use of "as in" in your sentences.
Your first sentence basically compares Japan to here.
Your second sentence gives an example -- it does not make a comparison.
The words "as in" form a standard phrase which is used to give
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YankeeHi TakaWhen you say 'I don't really like it', does it mean that it's basically not natural as English? Or is it just your presonal preference?
I don't really like the ellipsis in your first sentence very much, and you can't really compare the use of "as in" in your sentences.
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Hi Taka
It's my personal preference because it sounds a bit unnatural to me. It might be OK in spoken English, but I would expect to hear 'like' instead of 'as' in your particular sentence if you omit 'they are'. In written English, I would not omit "they are" in that sentence (i.e. I would write "as they are in Japan").
Maybe someone else will have some additional or differen
It's my personal preference because it sounds a bit unnatural to me. It might be OK in spoken English, but I would expect to hear 'like' instead of 'as' in your particular sentence if you omit 'they are'. In written English, I would not omit "they are" in that sentence (i.e. I would write "as they are in Japan").
Maybe someone else will have some additional or differen
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Would "is the case" work? e.g.
1. Things are expensive here, as (is the case) in Japan.
2. Sometimes the self is an author writing thoughts externally on paper...This makes the everyday reference to writing by its author's name—as (is the case) in "Pascal is on the top shelf"—seem so natural.
(Which presumably would make it pronominal "as".)
MrP
1. Things are expensive here, as (is the case) in Japan.
2. Sometimes the self is an author writing thoughts externally on paper...This makes the everyday reference to writing by its author's name—as (is the case) in "Pascal is on the top shelf"—seem so natural.
(Which presumably would make it pronominal "as".)
MrP
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YankeeHi TakaI agree.
It's my personal preference because it sounds a bit unnatural to me.
I too had a difficulty to make a connection between your 1st and 2nd cases.
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