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Anonymous Posted 17 years ago
Grammar

Elided phrases "that is/are" for these?

Hi.

1. Is this a case of an elided phrase. "that is," at work?

Use this punctuation mark after a prefix (that is??) followed by a proper noun.

2. I think the part in commas could be made restrictive with the elided phrase "that are." Do you agree? Why do you think it is made a dependent participle phrase (if I termed it correctly)?

These products, invented by John Doe, were designed to help people do this better.
  

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1-- Yes 2-- As it stands, it is a non-restrictive, nonfinite clause. The author used it because it is extra information about the products, which s/he wished to subordinate. 'That are' would not work; you could use 'that were ', but a restrictive clause sounds odd, since the products are already identified earlier in context (this fact is clear from the use of the demonstrative 'these').

  • 1-- Yes 2-- As it stands, it is a non-restrictive, nonfinite clause.
  • The author used it because it is extra information about the products, which s/he wished to subordinate.
  • 'That are' would not work; you could use 'that were ', but a restrictive clause sounds odd, since the products are already identified earlier in context (this fact is clear from the use of the demonstrative 'these').
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1-- Yes
2-- As it stands, it is a non-restrictive, nonfinite clause. The author used it because it is extra information about the products, which s/he wished to subordinate. 'That are' would not work; you could use 'that were', but a restrictive clause sounds odd, since the products are already identified earlier in context (this fact is clear from the use of the demonstrative
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Hi. Thank you.

I wrote this sentence:

These products, invented by John Doe, were designed to help people do this better.

I think I am confused about retaining the present tense for the "eternal truth" aspect of a piece of information. I think these phrases "is invented by" and "was invented by" are used in writing and believe, in both instances, it is assu
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'Was', not 'is'. The process of invention is clearly in the past. I suspect that any instances you find of the present tense are non-native or disreputable sources. Please supply any if you find them and I will review them.
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Hi. These are what came up when I did a Google Book Search of the phrase "which is invented by." Can you comment on some? Thank you.

History of the Reformation of the sixteenth century. A new tr.

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1-- Speaking of the general process of invention, not any specific one already accomplished.
2-- As #1
3-- A literary device.
4-- As #1
5-- As #1
6-- A usage of the English of 2 centuries ago, 1815
7-- It is an adjective

8-- As #1
9-- As #1-- actually, it is a duplicate hit on #1
10-- A usage of one and a half centuries ago (1859)

Now ple
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Thank you very much. For all intended purposes, the topic is closed. I just want to mention that what I listed as what I came up (with) when I did a Google Book Search was just one screen-ful of entries (sentences?) and there were many more. Thank you for your help.
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Good, thank you. Like Alice's Restaurant, you can get almost anything you want at Ms Google's. By the way, the phrases is 'to/for all intents and purposes'.
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