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Mr Patrick Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

EFLese: Past Perfect questions and answers

Hi all,





Suppose you’re working at your desk and a colleague comes up to you and says “Had you had breakfast when you got to work today?” What would you answer?





a) Yes, as a matter of fact I already had had breakfast when I got on the bus to work!



b) Say what??? Ah, you mean “Did I have breakfast before going to work?”, right? Yeah, I did.





You see, I have recently received an exam in which I am supposed to (orally) ask the above question. The student is supposed to answer using the past perfect tense. If they don’t, I am to assume that they are not answering correctly.



Now, quite frankly, I find that the proposed question is rather odd, especially in the spoken register. It appears to inquire about the specific moment when the person arrived at work, whereas a more common version of the same question would probably inquire about the breakfast in the simple past. So I would like to ask you people a few questions, just to see whether my doubts are shared by others.



How often do you inquire about past events using the past perfect?

If someone put the above question to you in the past perfect, would you likely answer in the same tense, or would you use the simple past? And, finally, would you mark an answer in the simple past as incorrect?

  

Top answer

Had you had breakfast when you got to work today? Not correct, IMO. One doesn't use the past perfect for symultaneous actions, only for previous actions.

  • Had you had breakfast when you got to work today?
  • Not correct, IMO.
  • One doesn't use the past perfect for symultaneous actions, only for previous actions.
  • Alternatives: Had you had breakfast before you got/came to work today?
  • Did you have breakfast when you got/came to work today?
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Had you had breakfast when you got to work today? Not correct, IMO. One doesn't use the past perfect for symultaneous actions, only for previous actions.

Alternatives:
Had you had breakfast before you got/came to work today?
Did you have breakfast when you got/came
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Marius HancuHad you had breakfast when you got to work today? Not correct, IMO. One doesn't use the past perfect for symultaneous actions, only for previous actions.

Alternatives:
Had you had breakfast before you got/came to work today?
Did you have breakfast
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I agree with you - it's not incorrect, but it's odd for this type of use.

I suppose that if your company was having a breakfast for all the employees, and someone forgot, and is telling you they were disappointed to not eat the company breakfast but they were already flll ... you could say "Oh, had you had your breakfast (already) when you got to work?" But you are absolutely right, the
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Well, I do feel better now...after all, my intuitions seem to be shared by other proficient speakers.

Thanks everyone!
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Hi guys,

“Had you had breakfast when you got to work today?” What would you answer?

a) Yes, as a matter of fact I already had had breakfast when I got on the bus to work!

b) Say what??? Ah, you mean “Did I have breakfast before going to work?”, right?

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