Does this statement make sense?

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First, I know I'm posting the same thing twice, but I wanted to log-in so I could keep track of the responses.

Does this statement make sense?
"I now have enough to be true as "The Man" you wish was."

The word "was" refers to existing.

I know it would technically make more sense as, "I now have enough to be AS true as "The Man" you wish were," but does the way it's written above still convey the same meaning?

Also, can a person ever "wish of" something rather than "wish for" something?

Mister Micawber · Accepted Answer

I understand neither sentence, sorry.  Could you explain what they mean?  Who is 'The Man'?

Timothy Lou Ly · Answer

"The Man" is just an idealized version of what another person wants the speaker to be. Since "The Man" is only a fictional person, the other person wishes he was/were true/real. The speaker now believes he is as "true and real" as the other person wishes "The Man" was.

Mister Micawber · Answer

Ah. OK:

Does this statement make sense?- No, it needs to read like one of these:

"I now have enough to be as real as "The Man" you wish I were/was."
"I now have enough to be as real as "The Man" you have been wishing for."

('Real' means in existence; 'true' means faithful.)

Also, can a person ever "wish of" something rather than "wish for" something?-- No.

Anonymous · Answer

All I wish of you, Mister Micawber, is to know that I can indeed wish something of you, not necessarily for you (although I'm wishing something of someONE, not someTHING).
It's a different matter that the phrase doesn't convey the same meaning as "wishing for" something.

If what I wrote is grammatically incorrect, do let me know with some reference. I have been using this phrase all my life. And it's not too late to correct myself if I've been using the language incorrectly.

Mister Micawber · Answer

You can wish of someone that he do something.
You can wish something (an action) of someone.

Those are your choices.

Timothy Lou Ly · Answer

Thanks for the insight into wishing of/wishing for.

Going back to the statement that I had originally posted about, I have reworded what I hope to convey in a statement. Please let me know if this makes any sense at all.

"He is true - as is she, who(whom?) you wish were as such."

I hope to say that "He" is as true as the girl "you" wish were (a girl that is, in fact, not "true" at all - this of course, meaning he can't possibly be "true" either).

Also, can't "true" be a synonym for "real?"

OR would this better suit what I'm trying to convey:

"He is true - as is she, who(whom?) you make up as such."

Grammarfreak · Answer

Timothy Lou Ly"I now have enough to be AS true as "The Man" you wish were,"

This is a curious sentence. From a semantic point of view, there are questions a reader may ask. " Have enough.." - what is
"enough" referring to? The underlined sounded a little peculiar to my ears. How about: I know now I can be as true the man as you wish I were?

Anonymous · Answer

i did not go to lukhnow ...is this correct sentence??

Clive · Answer

Hi,

No. It needs capital letters and a period.

Please start a new thread for a new query.
Clive

Anonymous · Answer

Timothy Lou LyAlso, can't "true" be a synonym for "real?"

I have no experience of 'true' meaning the same thing as 'real' except in Philosophy and Logic. In everyday vernacular, 'true' can mean 'faithful' or 'loyal', or it can mean 'something that is the case' or 'the opposite of false.' It does not mean 'something that exists' or anything like that.

Timothy Lou Ly"He is true - as is she, who(whom?) you wish were as such."I hope to say that "He" is as true as the girl "you" wish were (a girl that is, in fact, not "true" at all - this of course, meaning he can't possibly be "true" either).

The question of whether this statement makes sense is mostly a matter of context. If the underlying truth to the matter is there are two people, a man and a girl, who are not true (that is to say unfaithful or disloyal) and the speaker wants to point this out, then the sentence that would make this clear would be: He is as true as she is.

It is unnecessary to add "whom you wish were as such" because it is either does the job of telling the listener that they wish she was true even though she is not (which is unneeded as the listener would know what they wish) or it says that the male referent has the quality of being as true as the listener wishes the girl were (which changes the meaning of the statement).

Additionally, you must decide whether you mean true = 'He is faithful', or real = 'He exists'.

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