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Anonymous Posted 12 years ago
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Does this sound correct?

So Paul Scholes (footballer) has said:
"Henderson is a diamond of a lad. He’s a player others appreciate having around them on the pitch."

Is the "them" really required? having around them sounds like wearing a necklace. Try reading it without the them. Which is correct?
  

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I think there's a subtle difference in meaning. "Having around on the pitch" says that they are useful to the team's game as whole. "Having around them" implies a rather more intimate connection - the players like to have him close to them on the pitch.

— Anonymous

  • I think there's a subtle difference in meaning.
  • "Having around on the pitch" says that they are useful to the team's game as whole.
  • "Having around them" implies a rather more intimate connection - the players like to have him close to them on the pitch.
  • It suggests he is supportive in some way, perhaps through moral, or passing *****, or protecting the player from opponents.
  • On the other hand, footballers aren't always known for nuance.
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I think there's a subtle difference in meaning. "Having around on the pitch" says that they are useful to the team's game as whole. "Having around them" implies a rather more intimate connection - the players like to have him close to them on the pitch. It suggests he is supportive in some way, perhaps through moral, or passing *****, or protecting the player from opponents.

On the other
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AnonymousHe’s a player others appreciate having around them on the pitch.
Here, he is around them, not they around him; in other words, they (others) appreciate he is with them on the pitch.
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