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OJTabby Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

Do Substitution


"There is currently a great debate about whether NHL players should be forced to wear visors like they are with helmets."

Does anyone think something is wrong with "they are with helmets"? This got me thinking about the following:

1 "Players are forced to wear visors as they are forced to wear helmets."
2 "Players are forced to wear visors as they are forced to do helmets."
3 "Players are forced to wear visors as they are forced to do with helmets."
4 "Players are forced to wear visors as they are with helmets."

where sentences 2,3 and 4 are possible ellipted versions of sentence 1. How correct are these? Does "do" substitute for "wear" or "wear visors"?
  

Top answer

Sentences 1, 3 and 4 are acceptable paraphrases of the original. #2 is not.

— Mister Micawber

  • Sentences 1, 3 and 4 are acceptable paraphrases of the original.
  • #2 is not.
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Sentences 1, 3 and 4 are acceptable paraphrases of the original. #2 is not.
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I messed up with the first post. Let me try this.

1a "Calculators are required for quizzes, as they are required for exams."
1b "Calculators are required for quizzes, as they are for exams."
1c "Calculators are required for quizzes, as they are with exams."

2a "The team is expe
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I don't think 'with' is an acceptable choice in either sentence.
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From the first post:

1 "Players are forced to wear visors as they are forced to wear helmets."
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4 "Players are forced to wear visors as they are with helmets."
From the third post:


2a "The team is expected to win the semi-final, as they are
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