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Ocelot Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
Direct Objects, Indirect Objects, Obliques, Dative Movement
0 Can a clause have three different objects? 02 br
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00 "Could you give the book to Mike for me?" the book = direct object, Mike = indirect object, me = oblique object 02 br
00 Correct? 02 br
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00 in "Mike gave the book to me" the book = direct object, me = indirect object, right? 02 br
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00 however, in 02 br
00 "Mike pointed to my tooth" is "my tooth" indirect object or oblique? 02 br
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00 in "Mike entered the house" "the house" is direct object, but in 02 br
00 "We have entered upon a new phase in history" "a new phase in history" is what? Oblique? 02 br
00 and in "Mike talked about me" is "me" oblique? 02 br
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00 "I sent money to her." "money" = direct object, "her" = indirect object, right? But 02 br
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00 "I went to her." "her" is NOT indirect object, nor any other type of object, is it? 02 br
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00 So is the Indirect Object always and only the noun phrase that "receives" the direct object of the clause, that is to say, is it the case that without a Direct Object the clause CANNOT have an Indirect Object either? 02 br
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00 Someone on this forum said Dative Movement is the operation of moving the indirect object in front the direct object with deletion of 'to'. However, if my above assumptions are true, this would not be the whole truth, for: 02 br
00 in 02 br
00 "I caught a fish for the cat," "a fish" is Direct Object and "the cat" is Oblique, and in 02 br
00 "I caught the cat a fish" the very same sentence seems to have undergone dative movement, and 02 br
00 another such pair is 02 br
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00 "They built a house for Harry" and 02 br
00 "They built Harry a house" 02 br
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00 so this would suggest that Dative Movement can be used, with ditransitive verbs, not only to do away with 'to' and move the Indirect Object in front of the Direct Object, but also to delete 'for' and move the Oblique in front of the Direct Object. Do y'all agree? 0-
02 br
00 "Could you give the book to Mike for me?" the book = direct object, Mike = indirect object, me = oblique object 02 br
00 Correct? 02 br
02 br
00 in "Mike gave the book to me" the book = direct object, me = indirect object, right? 02 br
02 br
00 however, in 02 br
00 "Mike pointed to my tooth" is "my tooth" indirect object or oblique? 02 br
02 br
00 in "Mike entered the house" "the house" is direct object, but in 02 br
00 "We have entered upon a new phase in history" "a new phase in history" is what? Oblique? 02 br
00 and in "Mike talked about me" is "me" oblique? 02 br
02 br
00 "I sent money to her." "money" = direct object, "her" = indirect object, right? But 02 br
02 br
00 "I went to her." "her" is NOT indirect object, nor any other type of object, is it? 02 br
02 br
00 So is the Indirect Object always and only the noun phrase that "receives" the direct object of the clause, that is to say, is it the case that without a Direct Object the clause CANNOT have an Indirect Object either? 02 br
02 br
00 Someone on this forum said Dative Movement is the operation of moving the indirect object in front the direct object with deletion of 'to'. However, if my above assumptions are true, this would not be the whole truth, for: 02 br
00 in 02 br
00 "I caught a fish for the cat," "a fish" is Direct Object and "the cat" is Oblique, and in 02 br
00 "I caught the cat a fish" the very same sentence seems to have undergone dative movement, and 02 br
00 another such pair is 02 br
02 br
00 "They built a house for Harry" and 02 br
00 "They built Harry a house" 02 br
02 br
00 so this would suggest that Dative Movement can be used, with ditransitive verbs, not only to do away with 'to' and move the Indirect Object in front of the Direct Object, but also to delete 'for' and move the Oblique in front of the Direct Object. Do y'all agree? 0-
Top answer
02 br 02 br 00 in "Mike gave the book to me" the book = direct object, me = indirect object, right? 02 br 02 font 02 br 00 however, in 02 br 00 "Mike pointed to my tooth" is "my tooth" indirect object or oblique? 02 br 02 font 00 "We have entered upon a new phase in history" "a new phase in history" is what?
- 02 br 02 br 00 in "Mike gave the book to me" the book = direct object, me = indirect object, right?
- 02 br 02 font 02 br 00 however, in 02 br 00 "Mike pointed to my tooth" is "my tooth" indirect object or oblique?
- 02 br 02 font 00 "We have entered upon a new phase in history" "a new phase in history" is what?
- Oblique?
- " "money" = direct object, "her" = indirect object, right?
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0 Could you give the book to Mike for me?" the book = direct object, 01 font 00 yes 02 font 00 Mike = indirect object, 01 font 00 yes 02 font 00 me = oblique object 01 font 00 I haven't heard of it before. 02 br
02 font 00 Correct? 02 br
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01 cite 10 Doll 12 cite 11 i 10 "Mike pointed to my tooth" 12 i 10 is "my tooth" indirect object or oblique? 11 font 10 It is direct object I think. 12 font 12 br
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11 i 10 "I went to her." 12 i 10 "her" is NOT indirect object, nor any other type of o
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0 Hmm, I didn't know anything about prepositional object before.Thanks for your information and what about 01 i 00 I went to her 02 i 00 ? 0-
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"Mike gave me the book" the book = direct object, me = indirect object Yes.
"Mike gave the book to me" the book = direct object, me = indirect object, right?Yes. No!
It is impossible for 'me' to be the indirect objectinthe second sentence for o
"Mike gave the book to me" the book = direct object, me = indirect object, right?
It is impossible for 'me' to be the indirect objectinthe second sentence for o
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