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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

creams and detergents

Hi,

I think the words 'cream' and 'detergent' are mass nouns.

I think a household might have a lot of creams, meaning they have an all-natural hand washing cream, a special-formula moisturizing cream (if there is such one out there), a wrinkle-removing-help cream, etc. If that is so, can I write like this?

This household certainly uses a lot creams.
I think if you had washing cream, moisturizing cream and wrinkle-removing cream, that would create types but adding words like 'all-natural' renders them to type differentiation? Right?

As to the detergents, if a household uses an all-natural dish-washing detergent to wash dishes and all-natural clothes-washing detergent to wash clothes, can I say?
This household uses two different detergents for their dishes and clothes.

Did I hyphenate those cream and detergent words correctly?
  

Top answer

Can I write like this? -- Yes I think if you had washing cream, moisturizing cream and wrinkle-removing cream, that would create types but adding words like 'all-natural' renders them to type differentiation? -- Huh??

  • Can I write like this?
  • -- Yes I think if you had washing cream, moisturizing cream and wrinkle-removing cream, that would create types but adding words like 'all-natural' renders them to type differentiation?
  • -- Huh??
  • Can I say?
  • -- Yes Did I hyphenate these cream and detergent words correctly?
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Can I write like this? This household certainly uses a lot of creams.-- Yes

I think if you had washing cream, moisturizing cream and wrinkle-removing cream, that would create types but adding words like 'all-natural' renders them to type differentiation? Right?-- Huh??

Can I say?-- This household uses two different detergents for their dishe
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Thank you so much.

As to the 'Huh", I have forgotten to include the crucial word "not" there. Can you make sense of this question now?

I think if you had washing cream, moisturizing cream and wrinkle-removing cream, that would NOT create types but adding words like 'all-natural' renders them to type differentiation? Right?-- Huh??

a washing cream/a moistur
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Ah. Wrong. They all create secondary recategorization. These are all fine:

a washing cream/a moisturizing cream/ a wrinkle-removing cream
an all-natural cream/ a wrinkle-removing cream
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Thank you again.

What troubles me is my inability to distinguish what causes secondary recategoriztion and what cause primary (right term?) categorization, which results in no need for an article.

My favorite food is pizza. I assume pizza is a variable noun and not a mass noun like cream or detergent, but I think the same approach can be used in respect to figuring out whether
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pepperoni pizza -- no article needed.- Not trying to confuse you, but I can order "a peperroni pizza".
But "I like pizza" - pizza is a collective noun used in a general statement.

Cream, as wel las wine" ( among many nouns) is used in singular context, no "s", We can say " my sister uses a lot of cream prodcuts". but not "creams"
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The article is not always 'needed', but it can be used when you categorize an uncountable. You must put your examples into sentences-- contexts-- to begin understanding this. In your examples, the pepperoni and Chilean and washing are irrelevant:

(Pepperoni) pizza / (Chilean red) wine is delicious.
I ordered (a) (pepperoni) pizza / (a) (Chilean red) wine.


You
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PS (for Goodman's benefit):

there are a lot of creams out in the market which are proven to be good enough
A lot of creams don’t do a whole lot, so it is important to do good research before buying one.
there are a lot of creams you can get from a dermatologist
I've tried a lot of creams in the fight against cellul
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Hi MM,
((( ))) PS (for Goodman's benefit):

Thanks for the kind and generous offer. I don't know if "creams" is considered good where you are. I am afraid "creams" doesn't work too well or sound too acceptable in this nick of the woods
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What I offered you was some reasonably reputable on-line examples of creams as a countable noun, Goodman, to support -- obviously -- my own belief that it is perfectly acceptable. What I would like is to see some sort of support for your viewpoint.

Ms Google gives us:

3,770 for "
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'Cream' is an uncountable noun according to Collins Cobuild English Dictionary for Advanced Learners and Times-Chambers Essential English Dictionary.

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