Correct order in which to parse a verb?

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I've forgotten now.We were taught something like:Person, number, voice, mood, tense.Would others go along with that?Can anyone set me straight on these:I will sit in the chair.   -   1st person singular, active, indicative, futureThey had been told what to do.   -   3rd person plural, passive, indicative, pluperfect.Let them eat cake   -   Could be 3rd person plural, active, subjunctive (jussive), presentThe bus stop was situated outside the airport   -   3rd person singular, passive, indicative, perfect (participle)

Mister Micawber · Accepted Answer

They had been told what to do. - 3rd person plural, passive, indicative, past perfect (pluperfect is not usually used for English)

Let them eat cake - 2rd person singular or plural, active, imperative, present

The bus stop was situated outside the airport - 3rd person singular, passive (or more probably active with the linking verb be and a predicate adjective), indicative.

Garnett · Answer

Thanks Mister Micawber.

Can you help me with tense names for english please:

I've had a stab at it:

Future Perfect (I will sit)
Future Imperfect (I will be sitting)
Future Historic (I will have sat")
Present (I sit)
Perfect(I sat)
Imperfect (I was sitting)
Pluperfect (I had sat"
? (I had been sitting)

Any I've missed?

Also can you hjelp me with Moods: Indicative, Subjunctive, Imperative.

In Latin you use the Jussive Subjuntive for sentences like "Let them eat cake", or "Let's go to the park". What is this construction in English?

Finally, I don't understand you here:

"The bus stop was situated outside the airport - 3rd person singular, passive (or more probably active with the linking verb be and a predicate adjective), indicative."

"active with the linking verb be"

Are you parsing "be" here, then?

Just because "situated" is being used as a participle adjective here, doesn't mean it can't be parsed like any other verb. It is a PPP isn't it - past passive participle?

Mister Micawber · Answer

Future Simple (I will sit)
Future Continuous/Progressive (I will be sitting)
Future Perfect (I will have sat")
Present Simple (I sit)
Past Simple (I sat)
Past Continuous/Progressive (I was sitting)
Past Perfect (I had sat)
Past Perfect Continuous/Progressive (I had been sitting)

Any I've missed? -- See [url=http://leo.stcloudstate.edu/grammar/tenses.html] VERB FORMS[/url]

Also can you hjelp me with Moods: Indicative, Subjunctive, Imperative. -- See [url=http://www.arts.uottawa.ca/writcent/hypergrammar/moods.html] VERB MOODS[/url]

In Latin you use the Jussive Subjuntive for sentences like "Let them eat cake", or "Let's go to the park". What is this construction in English? This is a causative imperative (I think).

"The bus stop was situated outside the airport - 3rd person singular, passive (or more probably active with the linking verb be and a predicate adjective), indicative." Are you parsing "be" here, then? -- Yes

Just because "situated" is being used as a participle adjective here, doesn't mean it can't be parsed like any other verb. It is a PPP isn't it - past passive participle? -- Not if it is an adjective. Don't confuse form and function. It is wisest to call it simply an -ed verb form.

Garnett · Answer

Mister MicawberFuture Simple (I will sit)
Future Continuous/Progressive (I will be sitting)
Future Perfect (I will have sat")
Present Simple (I sit)
Past Simple (I sat)
Past Continuous/Progressive (I was sitting)
Past Perfect (I had sat)
Past Perfect Continuous/Progressive (I had been sitting)

Any I've missed? -- See [url=http://leo.stcloudstate.edu/grammar/tenses.html] VERB FORMS[/url]

Also can you hjelp me with Moods: Indicative, Subjunctive, Imperative. -- See [url=http://www.arts.uottawa.ca/writcent/hypergrammar/moods.html] VERB MOODS[/url]

In Latin you use the Jussive Subjuntive for sentences like "Let them eat cake", or "Let's go to the park". What is this construction in English? This is a causative imperative (I think).

Awesome. Thanks for those references.

Mister Micawber"The bus stop was situated outside the airport - 3rd person singular, passive (or more probably active with the linking verb be and a predicate adjective), indicative." Are you parsing "be" here, then? -- Yes

Cool. That's what I thought.

Mister MicawberJust because "situated" is being used as a participle adjective here, doesn't mean it can't be parsed like any other verb. It is a PPP isn't it - past passive participle? -- Not if it is an adjective.

I disagree.

In "the flying machine", "flying" can be parsed (at least partially) - Active present participle.

Participle Adjective: "A form of a verb that in some languages, such as English, can function independently as an adjective, as the past participle baked in We had some baked beans, and is used with an auxiliary verb to indicate tense, aspect, or voice, as the past participle baked in the passive sentence The beans were baked too long." ~ from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=participle&x=0&y=0.

Is it a verb being used as an Adjective, or an out-and-out adjective? Frfom the definition above I would argue the former.

Mister MicawberDon't confuse form and function. It is wisest to call it simply an -ed verb form

I think that's the crux.

Have you sen my thread here?

What are your thoughts?

I believe "stood" can replace "situated" in the sentence "I was situated at the bus stop".

"Situated" is defined in the dictionary as an adjective in its own right. "Stood" is not.

It appears then, to hinge on whether "situated" is a adjective "with the linking verb be and a predicate adjective" or whether it is a "participle adjective" that could be replaced by any other participle adjective like "stood"...

Mister Micawber · Answer

OK, two quick comments:

1-- I'm not about to get involved in that other thread, but I can certainly see a use for I was stood at the bus stop-- but only as an obvious passive (like GGs cadaver): They led me all over town like a child, and then I was stood at the bus stop to get home as best I could. I do not think it works here in this thread because we are merely locating the subject. Web searching will get you a plethora of endless discussions on whether particular examples are predicate adjectives or passive formations. Many cases should be simply accepted as undecipherable, as far as I am concerned. That's why I like using '-ed form'.

2-- It would probably be better to cite the actual dictionary (here, American Heritage Dictionary) ; 'Dictionary.com' is just a search engine.

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