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Palinkasocsi Posted 17 years ago
Grammar

Correct or not?

Dear Friends,

In a paper I want to write that we need to consider those aspects of semantics and those purposes of extra-linguistic information that are relevant to my paper. I came up with the following:

"Before delving into the matter proper, however, it is essential to consider in some detail the particular aspect of semantics and the purposes of extra-linguistic information, as applied for this paper."

"As applied for this paper" seems a bit odd to me, however. Could a native please proofread whether it is correct or not? Any other suggestions?

Thank you.

Palinkasocsi
  

Top answer

Perhaps you mean 'that are applicable to this paper'? As in: Before delving into the matter proper, however, it is essential to consider in some detail the particular aspect s of semantics and the purposes of extra-linguistic information that are applicable to this paper . You're talking about 'the particular aspects', but that phrase is never followed by anything in the original --- what kind of particular aspects?

  • Perhaps you mean 'that are applicable to this paper'?
  • As in: Before delving into the matter proper, however, it is essential to consider in some detail the particular aspect s of semantics and the purposes of extra-linguistic information that are applicable to this paper .
  • You're talking about 'the particular aspects', but that phrase is never followed by anything in the original --- what kind of particular aspects?
  • ' should be restrictive in this sentence.
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Perhaps you mean 'that are applicable to this paper'?

As in:

Before delving into the matter proper, however, it is essential to consider in some detail the particular aspects of semantics and the purposes of extra-linguistic information that are applicable to this paper.

You're talking about 'the particular aspects', but that phrase is never followed by an
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Palinkasocsi"As applied for this paper" seems a bit odd to me, however.
To me, too. How about as they relate to this paper?

CJ
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On a side note, isn't this sentence overly long? I'm learning now that in formal writing shorter is better. You might consider something like this:

"First, those aspects of semantics and those purposes of extra-linguistic information that are relevant to this paper [are / need to be] considered."

It also conveys exactly what you mean.
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How about:

It is essential to consider in some detail the particular aspect of semantics and the purposes of extra-linguistic information respectively, as they relate to this paper.

Do you think 'respectively' here helps better understand that 'they' refers to both the semantic and the extra-linguistic aspects?

Thanks.

Palinkasocsi
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No, 'respectively' implies a similar sequential oredering; e.g., 'The old and the new car are red and blue, respectively.' means that the old car is red and the new car is blue because 'old/new' and 'red/blue' are both ordered in the same sequential manner due to the use of 'respectively'.
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So you are saying that 'respectively' cannot mean 'one after the other' or rather 'in this order' here.

Do you natives share Ferdis' opinion about the last few posts?

Thanks.

Palinkasocsi
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PalinkasocsiDo you think 'respectively' here helps better understand that 'they' refers to both the semantic and the extra-linguistic aspects?
No. The word 'respectively' doesn't have that effect. Your sentence is better without it.

Before he died, my grandfather gave $40,000 and $20,000 to his son and grandson, respectively.

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Thanks for your suggestions.

Palinkasocsi

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