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English 1b3 Posted 16 years ago
Grammar

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I think some of the following are slightly incorrect. Please tell me if I'm right and why.

a. The problem is not so much difficult as it is perplexing.



b. The words do not so much rename X as they do elaborate



c. The words do not such much rename X as they elaborte.



d. The words do not so much rename X as much as they elaborate.



e. It doesn't rename X as such.



f. For you to be so discerning as to pick up my faults was impressive

Thank you
  

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Hi, I think some of the following are slightly incorrect. Please tell me if I'm right Sure and why. These are somewhat stylized , formulaic ways of speaking.

  • Hi, I think some of the following are slightly incorrect.
  • Please tell me if I'm right Sure and why.
  • These are somewhat stylized , formulaic ways of speaking.
  • The second part usually mirrors the structure of the first part.
  • a.
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Hi,

I think some of the following are slightly incorrect. Please tell me if I'm right Sure

and why. These are somewhat stylized , formulaic ways of speaking. The second part usually mirrors the structure of the first part.

a. The problem is not so much difficult as it is perplexing.



b. The words do not so much rename X as
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Clive The words do not so much rename X as they do elaborate on it.

c. The words do not such much rename X as they elaborte. No, 'such' much is no good.

d. The words do not so much rename X as much as they elaborate on it.


Is there a reason why 'they do' cannot be inserted?
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Hi,

The words do not so much rename X as they do elaborate on it.

c. The words do not such much rename X as they elaborte. No, 'such' much is no good.

d. The words do not so much rename X as much as they elaborate on it.

Is there a reason why 'they do' cannot be inserted? You can say i
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Thank you very much, Clive.

I'll have to familiarize myself with this 'so...as to' expression, as it it just doesn't sit with me well just yet, unfortunately. Some of the following just don't seem right
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Hi,





He is so angry as to punch me= He is angry enough to punch me. Sounds OK to me.

I was so disappointed as to see him fail= I was disappointed enough to see him fail. The problem here seems mainly to be that the meaning is hard to understand. Why does being very disappointed make you want to see him fail? This obviously needs some context.
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Hi, sorry I constructed sentences, without giving the meaning enough thought. I realise they read wrongly.

One question: does the expression express something that could be done or is done? I notice that with your example, you said it was something that could be done, not something that was done.
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Hi,

I'd say much of that depends on the tense. The context also often adds clarification.



eg He was so angry as to punch me. (He probably punched me, but it's hard to be sure.)



eg He is so kind as to lend me money when I need it.



eg Will you be so kind as to open the window?



Clive
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Thank you for your help.

Sometimes the construction sounds very familiar; other times it does not.

I realise now that the 'to' is a particle (part of the infinitive), and not a preposition, which helps me to understand the meaning of the structure far better.
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Since you seem to be well-versed in the area of fixed expression, may I please have your help with the following question?

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