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I'm wondering  which of the following is correct:#1:  He consider her his friend.#2:  He consider  her as his friend.I saw both but don't know which is more common.Thanks.

New2grammar · Accepted Answer

I believe #2 is wrong.

CalifJim · Answer

as is optional. My guess is that it is more often left out than included.
CJ

Anonymous · Answer

Thanks CJ. How about the following two:
#3. He considers her kind.

#4. He considers her as kind.
I don't know why but I feel #4 is wrong.

Clive · Answer

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CalifJim · Answer

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Anonymous · Answer

Without 'as' 'consider' means 'believe to be', with 'as' it means 'discuss'.
#1 means He thinks her as a friend.
#1 means He is talking about her as a friend.

Anonymous · Answer

This sentence is apt - "He considers her to be his friend"....When we write english, some linkers can be omitted. It doesn't matter

Anonymous · Answer

both are equally common

Anonymous · Answer

My intuition as a native speaker was that it's fine with or without "as," at least when it's "consider" + "as" + NOUN. However, "consider" + "as" + ADJECTIVE sounds bad (I would not say "He considers her as kind.") And it may not be correct to use "as" in either case:

"As is sometimes used superfluously to introduce the complements of verbs like consider, deem, and account, as in They considered it as one of the landmark decisions of the civil rights movement. The measure was deemed as unnecessary. This usage may have arisen by analogy to regard and esteem, with which as is standardly used in this way: We regarded her as the best writer among us. But the use of as with verbs like consider is not sufficiently well established to be acceptable in writing."

- American Heritage Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/as

Maybe the best way to say it is "He regards her as a friend." That sounds least awkward to me, but maybe a little stilted/formal. Informally, I'd say "He thinks of her as a friend."

Cool Breeze · Answer

Anonymous But the use of as with verbs like consider is not sufficiently well established to be acceptable in writing.

I disagree with the dictionary and I wouldn't write a one-clause sentence beginning with but, which is a co-ordinating conjunction and therefore should be used to join a clause to a main clause. As is particularly acceptable with consider when more than just one noun follows: His friends didn't consider him as the best chess player in the world. This usage is well established in literature.

CB

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