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Nickyjan Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

confused about present perfect

0I have some troubles with this tense . I cannot understand clearly when we use present perfect and when we use passive voice .02br
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00That are the differences between those 2 sentences ? Can you explain it to me please .02br
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0 Tense and voice are two different things.02br
00 Both of your examples are in passive voice, especially if you flesh out the sentences a bit more.02br
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01i00Pasta has been eaten by Italians for centuries.02i00 (From a long time ago until the present moment.)02br
01i00Pasta is eaten daily by Italians.02i00
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1i001.Pasta is eaten daily by Italians.02i00 (As a present-day habit.)02br
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00 2.Italians eat pasta. [ This too is a presen-dat habit.]02br
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00 What is the difference between the two sentences? I guess the first sentence is a passive sentence and the second one is an active sentence. I maybe wrong. Please
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0You are right Rotter. The second sentence is an active sentence.and the first is passive. We always confuse the complex tense. You should pay attention to the verb. Passive : Be + Past Participle such as" is eaten. " Present perfect : Have+ past participle. For example: I've just read your post . However, I think" I've just recognized your look "is not the same meaning , we should use past
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01cite10Rotter12cite11i101.Pasta is eaten daily by Italians.12i10 (As a present-day habit.)12br
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102.Italians eat pasta. [ This too is a presen-dat habit.]12br
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10What is the difference between the two sentences? I guess the first sentence is a passive sentence and the
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01cite10Nickyjan12cite10I have some troubles with this tense . I cannot understand clearly when we use present perfect and when we use passive voice .12br
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0 I think in written language people tend to write the passive form.02br
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00 1. Foreign newspapers are sold here.02br
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00 2. We sell foreing newspapers here. [ This is not standard.]02br
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00 The reason, I beleive, is that the passive form emphasize the facts whereas the active form is the mere facts.02br
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01cite10Rotter12cite10I think in written language people tend to write the passive form.12br
101. Foreign newspapers are sold here.12br
102. We sell foreing newspapers here. [ This is not standard.]12br
10The reason, I beleive, is that the passive form emphasize the facts whereas the active form is
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0 I have learnt to write the words 'mere facts' , 'mere thoughts' , etc. I believe people write this way to emphasize the facts.02br
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0 I guess you wanted to mean "Passive voice is used to emphasize a fact whereas active voice is used to state the fact plainly or bluntly". If you mean so, I rather disagree. To me, the passive voice sounds less friendly, because it often takes an impersonal construct ( I mean the passive voice often conceals "who is the real doer").02br
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01cite10Rotter12cite10I think in written language people tend to write the passive form.12br
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101. Foreign newspapers are sold here.12br
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102. We sell foreing newspapers here. [ This is not standard.]12br
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10The reason, I beleive, is that the passive form emphasize
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