Confirmation for prep + relative pronoun

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Consequently,

1. When the relative pronouns refer to the object of the preposition in the clause, we can put it before the relative pronoun.

2. If there is a prepositional verb (I learned the differences between phrasal verbs and prepositional verbs), and the relative pronoun refers to the object of a prepositional verb, we can put it before the relative pronoun (is it right?).

3. Whether phrasal verbs have a direct or indirect object or not, we cannot put the preposition before the relative pronoun because actually there is no real preposition in the clause (is it right?).

4. Can you confirm whether we can use the rules when the relative pronouns refer to the subject of the clause. For example, S V O RP V O P(example by) is equal to S V O P(by) RP V O.

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Thank you for your patience and the great help.
Consequently,
1. When the relative pronouns refer to the object of the preposition in the clause, we can put it before the relative pronoun. Yes.
2. If there is a prepositional verb (I learned the differences between phrasal verbs and prepositional verbs), and the relative pronoun refers to the object of a prepositional verb, we can put it before the relative pronoun (is it right?). Yes. This is not really very different from 1.
3. Whether phrasal verbs have a direct or indirect object or not, we cannot put the preposition before the relative pronoun because actually there is no real preposition in the clause (is it right?). Yes. But there could be a preposition in the clause in addition to the one that goes with the phrasal verb. It's just the preposition in the verb-preposition combination that is part of this rule.
4. Can you confirm whether we can use the rules when the relative pronouns refer to the subject of the clause. The subject of the clause is never preceded by a preposition, so this item (4) has nothing to do with the first three. The subject relative pronoun that references the same entity as its antecedent can never appear at the end of the relative clause nor can it be preceded by a preposition.
For example, S V O RP V O P(example by) is equal to S V O P(by) RP V O. I have no idea what all this means.

I don't understand why you are trying to write up your own rules about the formation of relative clauses. There are hundreds of books and websites you can consult which will tell you the same thing.

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