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Laborious Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

Conditionals

Dear all,

Could anyone of you please tell me what meaning(s) the high-lighted/ darkened  parts convey? I am confused in deciding which one of the high-lighted pars in each example is correct and why?

a). If I had known that it was going to be raining  or  is going to be raining  or  would be raining, I  wouldn't have come with you or I wouldn't come with you. 

b). If you had told me that you wouldn't be able to/ aren't able to/ wasn't able to come to the party,  I wouldn't have made all the arrangements or I wouldn't make all the arrangements.

c). If you had informed me that you wouldn't be coming/ aren't coming/ weren't coming,  I would leave early or I would have left early

Thank you
  

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a) "If I had known that it was going to be raining / would be raining " normally implies that it is raining, and you did come, so the natural continuation is "I wouldn't have come with you". "If I had known that it is going to be raining" doesn't sound right. " normally implies that they can't come, but they didn't tell you, and you did make the arrangements, in which case the natural continuation is "I wouldn't have made all the arrangements".

  • a) "If I had known that it was going to be raining / would be raining " normally implies that it is raining, and you did come, so the natural continuation is "I wouldn't have come with you".
  • "If I had known that it is going to be raining" doesn't sound right.
  • " normally implies that they can't come, but they didn't tell you, and you did make the arrangements, in which case the natural continuation is "I wouldn't have made all the arrangements".
  • " may be possible (with the same continuation) if the party is still in the future and still going ahead, but for me there is a doubt, given the context, about whether the party actually would go ahead once it is known that the other person cannot attend.
  • " is ungrammatical.
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a)
"If I had known that it was going to be raining / would be raining" normally implies that it is raining, and you did come, so the natural continuation is "I wouldn't have come with you".

"If I had known that it is going to be raining" doesn't sound right.

b)
In the sort of cont
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LaboriousIf I had known ...
IF ... HAD + pp, ... WOULD HAVE + pp ...

If I had known ... I wouldn't have come ...
If you had told ... I wouldn't have made ...
If you had informed ..., I would have left ...

If ... HAD + pp THAT ... [past / WOULD + bare infinitive]

If I had known that [it was going to be ... / it would be] rai
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Many thanks to both of you, sir CalifJim and GPY for replying.

Actually, I got confused after reading this thread
http://www.EnglishForward.com/English/ConditionalPastFuture/gchqn/post.htm. In this thread, the questioner/ thread starter
(Optilang) asked if the
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Laborious"If you had known he wasn't coming to his lesson, you would go home early" ... Is it possible to say such a sentence?
I would not say that sentence. No.

If you had known he wasn't coming to his lesson, you would have gone home early.

CJ
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Laborious"If you had known he wasn't coming to his lesson, you would go home early"Dear teachers, I'm not being able to decide if we can ever say this sentence. Is it possible to say such a sentence?And in what context or situation one would say the above sentence if one were to.
I can't think of any situation in which one would say that. The usual continuatio
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Thank you so much again!

Since you are natives and possess much more knowledge of this language than I do, I'd better follow you people.
I've learned many things form you and still leaning.

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