Comma between gerund and its sense subject?

aqua modern 23Do people sometimes put a comma between a gerund and its sense subject?

I doubt it. You may see it, but it looks totally wrong, so I don't recommend it.

In other words, good writers would not use a comma in your sentence b.

CJ

aqua modern 23

Do people sometimes put a comma between a gerund and its sense subject? Like (b).

(a) I'm sure of John winning the race.

(b) I'm sure of John, winning the race.

A comma would be wrong.

It's a rule of Present-day English that a subject should not be separated from its verb by punctuat

aqua modern 23Do people sometimes put a comma between a gerund and its sense subject?

Not one comma, but two are allowable.

I'm sure of John, the fastest runner in the lineup, winning the race.

John, being the fastest runner in the lineup, will surely win the race.

aqua modern 23Do people sometimes put a comma between a gerund and its sense subject?

The sentence should properly be "I'm sure of John's winning the race." The gerund "winning" has no subject, it being a noun. When people use the ungrammatical "John winning the race", grammar is out the window, but the structure is unchanged, and they mean the same thing I