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Addyaddy Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

comma before and

The torch briefly travels around Greece via short relay, and is then transferred to the host city at a ceremony in the Panathinaiko Stadium in Athens.

In this sentence, is a comma needed before and?
  

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In this sentence, is a comma needed before and? The comma seems reasonable there, as it creates a brief pause between the two clauses. Regards

— Regards

  • In this sentence, is a comma needed before and?
  • The comma seems reasonable there, as it creates a brief pause between the two clauses.
  • Regards
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Hi,
addyaddy The torch briefly travels around Greece via short relay, and is then transferred to the host city at a ceremony in the Panathinaiko Stadium in Athens.In this sentence, is a comma needed before and?
The comma seems reasonable there, as it creates a brief pause between the two clauses.

Regards
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I am wondering if it may be wrong. You see, The conjunction and is not separating two independent clauses. I am not sure what is does here, but there is no subject in the clause that follow and. Please explain, do you agree or not?
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addyaddy The conjunction and is not separating two independent clauses.
Many people seem to think that a comma should not be used before a conjunction joining two independent clauses, and some of them feel very strongly about this. I agree wih Regards - The comma seems reasonable there, as it creates a brief pause between the two clauses.
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I agree with your point. I am trying to reconsider whether the second clause is an independent clause or not? It does not have a subject of its own. How does it become an independent clause?
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Not really, IMO. It would be correct either way, though.
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addyaddy I am trying to reconsider whether the second clause is an independent clause or not?
'The torch' is understood as the subject of the second clause.
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addyaddyI agree with your point. I am trying to reconsider whether the second clause is an independent clause or not? It does not have a subject of its own. How does it become an independent clause?
The torch briefly travels around Greece via short relay, and it is then transferred to the host city at a ceremony in the Panathinaiko Stadium in Athens. Th
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I am basing my argument on this:

ww.grammarbook.com/punctuation/commas.asp

please add: w before the link

rule 15.

Please correct me if I have understood this wrongly.
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You understood it. Her rules are good ones, and if you learn and follow them, you won't go far wrong. But don't think that there is a set of rules written somewhere that is the Rules of English Commas. There is no such thing. We have conventions and styles and precedents and the like, that's all.

(By the way, further to her note, "i.e." is pronounced "that is", and "e.g." is pronou
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