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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
Linguistics Studies

Comes in colours.

(again, for MollyB.)

>Jespersen has said that, when referring to the future, "will" is often coloured by an element of volition and "shall" by obligation. Joos has said that "be going to" seems to be the only uncoloured futue English has.

Do you think Jespersen and Joos are right?<
  

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They seem to be right!
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AvangiThey seem to be right!
How about this?

You are going to do your homework even if you have to sit there all night!
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You shall do your homework.

Language is a wonderful tool in skillful hands. We mustn't be afraid to use it.
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AnonymousJespersen has said that, when referring to the future, "will" is often coloured by an element of volition and "shall" by obligation. Joos has said that "be going to" seems to be the only uncoloured futue English has.

I've been thinking about this one for a couple of days and I hope you'll be able to help me better understand a sentence.
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Hi Tanit,

The shall/will thing is rarely used in the US. The weird thing about it is that for first person, they reverse.

I shall is simply future. I will expresses determination.

He shall expresses obligation. He will is simply future.

There's a famous couplet to show the difference: I shall drown and no one will save me - a sad prediction. I will dr
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Grammar GeekI shall is simply future. I will expresses determination.

He shall expresses obligation. He will is simply future.
This originated with Wallis in the 17th century. It is not followed by American, Scottish or Irish writers, and it has never been consistently followed by English writers either.
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Grammar GeekI shall is simply future. I will expresses determination.

He shall expresses obligation. He will is simply future.

This originated with Wallis in the 17th century. It is not followed by American, Scottish or Irish writers, and it has never been consistently followed by English writers either.
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Really? Go back and read the entire paragraph. It was concerning will and shall as well. And this does answer the post exactly - by saying that will and shall do not really have the "coloring" as asserted, then "going to" is not the only one that is netural. Will is also quite neutral. And shall just isn't used much (in the US).
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Are the colours black and blue?

Can't believe I started this with my smallest reply ever.
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Grammar Geek I very much expect that if you surveyed 1000 Americans about the difference between "I shall" and "I will," well over 950 of them will say something like "Ummm.... is shall British, maybe?"
Hi Barbara,

Thanks for your answer. I forgot to mention that the teacher I was referring to is British, but I am quite sure you understood t

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