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"Color Blind" -- what color is that?
Over many years, Californian governments have assiduously built up a reputation for being racist pigs. Prop 187 in 1994 denied education and health care to undocumented workers, Prop 209 in 1996 banned affirmative action, Prop 227 in 1998 scrapped bilingual education.
Now it seems however, the California has finally seen the light. Prop
54 "the Racial Privacy Initiative" or, more accurately, CRECNO(Classification by Race, Ethnicity, Color or National Origin) is on the recall ballot.
It's amazing that the solution to racially differential provision of public was so obvious! Because government officials (excepting law enforcement and prison management) will no longer be able to ask what race people are from, overnight all services that were hitherto provided in a racially discriminatory way will now be provided in a color blind way. Why didn't we all think of that ages ago?
That Ward Connerly guy is a genius! Here was I thinking he must be some kind of racist when he OPPOSED affirmative action, and now it seems that all he wants is to "stop the indignity of classifying people". Yes, lets make all the bad stuff that happens to people of color disappear, or at least be visited upon them as color-neutral Californians.
Although the cops can ask what race you are, they don't have to. This could be really good. Just imagine there's a bunch of cops who spot some colored transit worker getting sassy, and they decide to beat him or her up. If they do it before the legislation passes, it could go down as a racist assault. So they go up to the transit worker and if one of them forgets himself and says "what f...g ethnicity are you?" the bus driver could say "latino" and then when the cops pounded him or her to a pulp that'd be racist.
But after the legislation passes, the latino bus driver could say "hey I don't have to answer that ... I don't want to be classified." And one cop could turn to the other and say "the guy's got a point, ceptin' we're PO-lice officers and we can ask what the hell we like!". "Ok, tell ya what we're gonna do, we'll beat you up as a person of no particular color."
And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. The hospital could deal with him or her as if they were color neutral (I'm thinking it could be that kind of beige/acun color, with just a splash of claret here and there for effect).
I'm old enough to remember black and white TV but you know, I could tell the white guys from the black or latino guys. I wonder what the best description for these colours would be. I'd hate to think that law enforcement or racists in general might get confused about whom to beat up. "What was he?" "Oh, beige I think ...". It just doesn't sound right.
Berko60
For a world more beige than coloured ...
Now it seems however, the California has finally seen the light. Prop
54 "the Racial Privacy Initiative" or, more accurately, CRECNO(Classification by Race, Ethnicity, Color or National Origin) is on the recall ballot.
It's amazing that the solution to racially differential provision of public was so obvious! Because government officials (excepting law enforcement and prison management) will no longer be able to ask what race people are from, overnight all services that were hitherto provided in a racially discriminatory way will now be provided in a color blind way. Why didn't we all think of that ages ago?
That Ward Connerly guy is a genius! Here was I thinking he must be some kind of racist when he OPPOSED affirmative action, and now it seems that all he wants is to "stop the indignity of classifying people". Yes, lets make all the bad stuff that happens to people of color disappear, or at least be visited upon them as color-neutral Californians.
Although the cops can ask what race you are, they don't have to. This could be really good. Just imagine there's a bunch of cops who spot some colored transit worker getting sassy, and they decide to beat him or her up. If they do it before the legislation passes, it could go down as a racist assault. So they go up to the transit worker and if one of them forgets himself and says "what f...g ethnicity are you?" the bus driver could say "latino" and then when the cops pounded him or her to a pulp that'd be racist.
But after the legislation passes, the latino bus driver could say "hey I don't have to answer that ... I don't want to be classified." And one cop could turn to the other and say "the guy's got a point, ceptin' we're PO-lice officers and we can ask what the hell we like!". "Ok, tell ya what we're gonna do, we'll beat you up as a person of no particular color."
And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. The hospital could deal with him or her as if they were color neutral (I'm thinking it could be that kind of beige/acun color, with just a splash of claret here and there for effect).
I'm old enough to remember black and white TV but you know, I could tell the white guys from the black or latino guys. I wonder what the best description for these colours would be. I'd hate to think that law enforcement or racists in general might get confused about whom to beat up. "What was he?" "Oh, beige I think ...". It just doesn't sound right.
Berko60
For a world more beige than coloured ...
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{snipped} [nq:1]And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. [/nq] 'Acun' what color is that? john
- {snipped} [nq:1]And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided.
- [/nq] 'Acun' what color is that?
- john
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[nq:1]And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. The hospital could deal with him or her as if they were color neutral (I'm thinking it could be that kind of beige/acun color, with just a splash of claret here and there for effect).[/nq]
'Acun' what color is that?
john
[nq:1]And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. The hospital could deal with him or her as if they were color neutral (I'm thinking it could be that kind of beige/acun color, with just a splash of claret here and there for effect).[/nq]
'Acun' what color is that?
john
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[nq:1]Over many years, Californian governments have assiduously built up a reputation for being racist pigs. Prop 187 in 1994 denied education and health care to undocumented workers, Prop 209 in 1996 banned affirmative action, Prop 227 in 1998 scrapped bilingual education.[/nq]
Ballot initiatives are not normally placed on the ballot by "Californian governments", but by special interest group
Ballot initiatives are not normally placed on the ballot by "Californian governments", but by special interest group
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[nq:1]{snipped}[/nq]
[nq:2]And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. The ... just a splash of claret here and there for effect).[/nq]
[nq:1]'Acun' what color is that?[/nq]
Isn't it that sort of "off white-cream" color that internal walls are sometimes painted?
Berko
[nq:2]And so, a potential racist assault would be avoided. The ... just a splash of claret here and there for effect).[/nq]
[nq:1]'Acun' what color is that?[/nq]
Isn't it that sort of "off white-cream" color that internal walls are sometimes painted?
Berko
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[nq:2]Over many years, Californian governments have assiduously built up a ... banned affirmative action, Prop 227 in 1998 scrapped bilingual education.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ballot initiatives are not normally placed on the ballot by "Californian governments", but by special interest groups or other groups ... or elitist, or perhaps just as a bad idea. Of course that's just my opinion, yours may vary. R
[nq:1]Ballot initiatives are not normally placed on the ballot by "Californian governments", but by special interest groups or other groups ... or elitist, or perhaps just as a bad idea. Of course that's just my opinion, yours may vary. R
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[nq:2]{snipped} 'Acun' what color is that?[/nq]
[nq:1]Isn't it that sort of "off white-cream" color that internal walls are sometimes painted?[/nq]
Are you thinking of "ecru"?
[nq:1]Isn't it that sort of "off white-cream" color that internal walls are sometimes painted?[/nq]
Are you thinking of "ecru"?
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[nq:2]Ballot initiatives are not normally placed on the ballot by ... idea. Of course that's just my opinion, yours may vary.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's one definition of racist explicit discrimination on the basis of perceived race, but a policy measure, that, in practice, consistently selects beneficiaries or victims by race can also be deemed racist.[/nq]
How does "immigration status" = "perceiv
[nq:1]That's one definition of racist explicit discrimination on the basis of perceived race, but a policy measure, that, in practice, consistently selects beneficiaries or victims by race can also be deemed racist.[/nq]
How does "immigration status" = "perceiv
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[nq:2]Isn't it that sort of "off white-cream" color that internal walls are sometimes painted?[/nq]
[nq:1]Are you thinking of "ecru"?[/nq]
In the early part of my working life I did some work with a home decorator of Turkish extraction, and although I never saw the word written down, that's what it sounded like, and the supplier he bought from seemed to know what he meant. You could be rig
[nq:1]Are you thinking of "ecru"?[/nq]
In the early part of my working life I did some work with a home decorator of Turkish extraction, and although I never saw the word written down, that's what it sounded like, and the supplier he bought from seemed to know what he meant. You could be rig
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[nq:1]How does "immigration status" = "perceived race"? You gloss over the major point of disagreement.[/nq]
As long as most immigrants are not white, then any law that discriminates against immigrants discriminates disproportionately against non-whites. It is immoral to simply wave away such results as being of no importance.
[nq:2]Thus, a hypotherical measure that required intending immi
As long as most immigrants are not white, then any law that discriminates against immigrants discriminates disproportionately against non-whites. It is immoral to simply wave away such results as being of no importance.
[nq:2]Thus, a hypotherical measure that required intending immi
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[nq:1]"Californian citizens. did not on Those of Those It bad[/nq]
[nq:2]How does "immigration status" = "perceived race"? You gloss over the major point of disagreement.[/nq]
[nq:1]As long as most immigrants are not white, then any law that discriminates against immigrants discriminates disproportionately against non-whites.[/nq]
Disproportionate to what?
J.
[nq:2]How does "immigration status" = "perceived race"? You gloss over the major point of disagreement.[/nq]
[nq:1]As long as most immigrants are not white, then any law that discriminates against immigrants discriminates disproportionately against non-whites.[/nq]
Disproportionate to what?
J.
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[nq:1]"Californian citizens. did not on Those of Those It bad[/nq]
Sorry for quoting the whole thread, but I think that a three level interspersed post is pretty difficult to follow. So I'm just going to add my comments to the end here:Ray makes some good points. Though I was against this proposition for many good reasons, I still don't think you can say it is a racist law. By that logic, the
Sorry for quoting the whole thread, but I think that a three level interspersed post is pretty difficult to follow. So I'm just going to add my comments to the end here:Ray makes some good points. Though I was against this proposition for many good reasons, I still don't think you can say it is a racist law. By that logic, the
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