Coach/ carriage

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What is the difference between a coach and a carriage? I am looking for a proper word to refer to a vehicle, which was used to carry people or goods.Thanks!

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[nq:1]What is the difference between a coach and a carriage? I am looking for a proper word to refer to a vehicle, which was used to carry people or goods.[/nq]
Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image search? The question may not be a simple one.

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[nq:2]What is the difference between a coach and a carriage? ... a vehicle, which was used to carry people or goods.[/nq]
[nq:1]Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image search? The question may not be a simple one. Mike. Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com[/nq]
Sorry I can't. There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South of Germany. Some houses along the lanes have special stone at the corners, in order to prevent the houses from being damaged by the vehicles driving by in the old days. That is where my question comes from.
These vehicles are called "Kutsche" in German. The on-line dictionary offers "carriage" and "coach" as English translation.

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[nq:2]Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image ... Mike. Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com[/nq]
[nq:1]Sorry I can't. There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South ... question comes from. These vehicles are called "Kutsche" in German. The on-line dictionary offers "carriage" and "coach" as English translation.[/nq]
This is rather a quick-and-dirty respose, but in general, in my experience, "carriage" is used to refer to either a vehicle drawn by horses and designed to carry passengers rather than cargo or cargo and passengers or t o the underpinnings of any wheeled vehicle (as in 'carriage bolts' or the 'undercarriage' of a car.)

A "coach" is a horse-drawn passenger vehicle, but it is generally for hire, and seats more people than a carriage. (a stage coach, the mail coach, coach-and-four.) I would tend to picture a coach as larger and heavier than a carriage, and enclosed, where a carriage can be open..

A horse- or other draft animal-drawn primarily cargo vehicle is a wagon, a cart, or a dray if it has wheels, and a sledge if it has runners.
Here's the etymologies, from etymonline.com, an online etymology search:
coach
1556, "large kind of carriage," from M.Fr. coche, from Ger. kotsche, from Hung. kocsi (szekér) "(carriage) of Kocs," village where it was first made. In Hungary, the thing and the name for it date from 15c., and forms are found in most European languages. Applied to railway cars 1866, Amer.Eng. Sense of "economy or tourist class" is from 1949.
carriage
1388, "act of carrying, means of conveyance," from Anglo-Fr. cariage "cart, carriage," from carier "to carry" (see carry). Specific sense of "horse-drawn, wheeled vehicle for hauling people" first attested 1706.
So it appears that "coach" came first as the name of the vehicle, while "carriage" was the action. This would send me looking for the period in which the houses were built, to see if "carriage" was in use at the time.

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[nq:2]Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image ... Mike. Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com[/nq]
[nq:1]Sorry I can't. There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South ... question comes from. These vehicles are called "Kutsche" in German. The on-line dictionary offers "carriage" and "coach" as English translation.[/nq]
In that case, I'd use "carriage", which is a rather broader term than "coach". But that wouldn't really include goods vehicles: you could add "and carts" if you wanted to be fussy. (From a strictly technical point of view, even that isn't inclusive; but nobody will mind.)

Mike.

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[nq:2]Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image ... Mike. Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com[/nq]
[nq:1]Sorry I can't. There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South ... question comes from. These vehicles are called "Kutsche" in German. The on-line dictionary offers "carriage" and "coach" as English translation.[/nq]
Either sounds fine; "carriage" is probably a bit more generalised, but to a non-expert they are very similar. Both imply horse-drawn passenger vehicles.

Chris R

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[nq:2]Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image search? The question may not be a simple one.[/nq]
[nq:1]Sorry I can't. There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South ... question comes from. These vehicles are called "Kutsche" in German. The on-line dictionary offers "carriage" and "coach" as English translation.[/nq]
What is the "kitchen" word in German? I mean the one that goes with ?Church, Kitchen, and children, to spell out where women should give voice.
I thought it was Kutsche, but sometimes I confuse words I hear. Kuche?

For example, I met a guy named Gutsche, some years ago. I assumed the name was Gucci, and made an Italian kind of joke. He laughed politely, but seemed confused. It was only a year or so later that I saw his name as an officer of an organization. Ha!

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[nq:1]What is the "kitchen" word in German? I mean the one that goes with ?Church, Kitchen, and children, to spell out where women should give voice. I thought it was Kutsche, but sometimes I confuse words I hear. Kuche?[/nq]
There you go:

Les

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[nq:2]Can you link to a picture, perhaps from Ggl Image ... Mike. Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com[/nq]
[nq:1]Sorry I can't. There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South ... question comes from. These vehicles are called "Kutsche" in German. The on-line dictionary offers "carriage" and "coach" as English translation.[/nq]

I take it we are referring to horse-drawn vehicles.

A coach, as in stage coach (a 'public' vehicle), used to carry goods as well as passengers.
A carriage (a 'private' vehicle) generally conveys people (and sometimes might carry their luggage as well).

Francis Cameron

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[nq:1]What is the difference between a coach and a carriage? I am looking for a proper word to refer to a vehicle, which was used to carry people or goods. Thanks![/nq]
I've read the replies from other people.
You explained:
There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in Regensburg, a city in the South of Germany. Some houses along the lanes have special stone at the corners, in order to prevent the houses from being damaged by the vehicles driving by in the old days.
A dictionary definition:
vehicle. noun: a conveyance that transports people or objects

"Vehicle" seems to be the word you need.
You could use the phrase "horse-drawn vehicle" so that readers will understand the type of vehicle being referred to.

Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)

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[nq:2]What is the difference between a coach and a carriage? ... vehicle, which was used to carry people or goods. Thanks![/nq]
[nq:1]I've read the replies from other people. You explained: There are some narrow lanes in the old town center in ... need. You could use the phrase "horse-drawn vehicle" so that readers will understand the type of vehicle being referred to.[/nq]
Technically correct, but what dull and unevocative language. Coach or carriage give much more life to the image.
Chris R

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