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Does anybody here download the Globe and Mail cryptic crossword?

As a supplement to my daily UK crossword (Guardian), I sometimes print this off it's undemanding, but it's about the only one I know of that doesn't demand a subscription.
Very often, there are clues in there which strike me as entirely British using "church" to point to the letters "CE", or having a clue pointing towards a fisherman winding up at "angler" which I'd have had great difficulty with when I lived in Canada.

I've noticed this fairly often, and it strikes me as weird. Surely with a Canadian crossword, people in the UK ought to have trouble with culturally foreign usage, rather than a Canadian crossword assuming one knows foreign conventions.
Does the Globe & Mail assume that the cryptic crossword is done exclusively by expat Brits or does it just buy in a syndicated UK crossword and not notice the cultural discontinuities?

Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

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That's strange. Angler is quite familiar here in California. British influence, US influence somehow "angler" escaped.

I wonder how many words there are like that
common in England and the US, but not in Canada.
Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also. "Izaak Walton"

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[nq:1]Does anybody here download the Globe and Mail cryptic crossword? As a supplement to my daily UK crossword (Guardian), I ... towards a fisherman winding up at "angler" which I'd have had great difficulty with when I lived in Canada.[/nq]
'Angler' is in M-W online so it's not unknown in North America and the angler-fish is, I think, so called internationally. I'd expect Canadians to know something of the Church of England since the Anglican Churchis well-established and represented there. Unless CE is intended to refer to the Chriatian Episcopal Church of Canada (which was originally the Church of England in the Dominion of Canada)
http://www.christianepiscopal.org/
However, I'd recommend the international audience at ec.puzzles.crosswords -a very nice crowd - as final arbiters on such issues.

John Dean
Oxford

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[nq:1]Does anybody here download the Globe and Mail cryptic crossword? As a supplement to my daily UK crossword (Guardian), I ... by expat Brits or does it just buy in a syndicated UK crossword and not notice the cultural discontinuities?[/nq]
The cryptic crossword in my Western Australian newspaper is clearly compiled by a British person - one needs to know things like BR (= British Rail) and just about every town and river in the UK, plus some of the TV shows. I assume crosswords are simply bought/syndicated from UK newspapers.

Rob Bannister

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[nq:1]Does anybody here download the Globe and Mail cryptic crossword? As a supplement to my daily UK crossword (Guardian), I ... by expat Brits or does it just buy in a syndicated UK crossword and not notice the cultural discontinuities?[/nq]
I can't answer your first question, but as for the second:

The puzzles are copyrighted by First Features Syndicate. A quick google leads to .
QED

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[nq:1]Does anybody here download the Globe and Mail cryptic crossword? As a supplement to my daily UK crossword (Guardian), I ... towards a fisherman winding up at "angler" which I'd have had great difficulty with when I lived in Canada.[/nq]
I know nothing of the G&M crossword, but both of those are often used in the crosswords that appear in the Melbourne Age and Sydney Morning Herald. "Church" commonly points to either CE or CH.

Regards
John

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[nq:2]Does the Globe & Mail assume that the cryptic crossword ... a syndicated UK crossword and not notice the cultural discontinuities?[/nq]
[nq:1]I can't answer your first question, but as for the second: The puzzles are copyrighted by First Features Syndicate. A quick google leads to . QED[/nq]
Ah: that explains it.
(It'd annoy me if I was buying a paper in one country and getting a another country's culturally-specific clues, though.)

Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

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[nq:2]Does anybody here download the Globe and Mail cryptic crossword?[/nq]
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[nq:2]Very often, there are clues in there which strike me ... have had great difficulty with when I lived in Canada.[/nq]
[nq:1]'Angler' is in M-W online so it's not unknown in North America and the angler-fish is, I think, so called internationally. I'd expect Canadians to know something of the Church of England since the Anglican Churchis well-established and represented there.[/nq]
Not necessarily.
I grew up in a fairly high (incense was involved) Anglican church in Ottawa choirboy, altar boy, ridiculously long vigil services on Good Friday and all that but that was definitiely the "Anglican Church of Canada". I was aware, of course, about the links with the Church of England, but "church = CE" would have been strange to me. (I'd probably have figured out "church = ACC".)

Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

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[nq:1]On 15 Feb 2004, David McMurray wrote[/nq]
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[nq:2]I can't answer your first question, but as for the ... First Features Syndicate. A quick google leads to . QED[/nq]
[nq:1]Ah: that explains it. (It'd annoy me if I was buying a paper in one country and getting a another country's culturally-specific clues, though.)[/nq]
How does it explain? If I go to that link, I get a page that's blank except for "No website is currently configured at this address " and the helpful title: "Webmaster: upload your page to Awwwroot".

Gary

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[nq:2]On 15 Feb 2004, David McMurray wrote[/nq]
Re: Globe & Mail crosswords
[nq:2]Ah: that explains it. (It'd annoy me if I was buying a paper in one country and getting a another country's culturally-specific clues, though.)[/nq]
[nq:1]How does it explain? If I go to that link, I get a page that's blank except for "No website is currently configured at this address " and the helpful title: "Webmaster: upload your page to Awwwroot".[/nq]
I put "First Features Syndicate" into Google (as I assumed that's what David had done). The first hit gives that address which as you say, comes up with "no website", but suggests that there's a UK source to be looked for. Some of the other 46 hits on Google specifically note that the company is the source of the Globe & Mail, and/or lead to the company's address in Battle, East Sussex.
(And that explains why the G&M puzzles have UK clues and answers.)

Cheers, Harvey
Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

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[nq:1]On 15 Feb 2004, Gary Vellenzer wrote[/nq]
[nq:1]Re: Globe & Mail crosswords[/nq]
[nq:2]How does it explain? If I go to that link, ... and the helpful title: "Webmaster: upload your page to Awwwroot".[/nq]
[nq:1]I put "First Features Syndicate" into Google (as I assumed that's what David had done). The first hit gives that address which as you say, comes up with "no website", but suggests that there's a UK source to be looked for.[/nq]
I did exactly as you assumed, but clicking on the address I cited took me to the First Features Syndicate home page. It's hardly state of the art, but it exists. (And I've just gone there again by clicking on the URL as quoted above, so I didn't get it wrong.)

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