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Believer Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
Can you help me to see it clearly (Question II)?
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00 I was looking at Michael Swan's Practical English Usage and found it to be an excellent grammartical source. I was looking in particular at the section where you have nouns modifying other nouns, Eventhough I did spend some time looking at the section trying to understand the concept behind it but found that it didn't sink in, maybe due to 'moi' self. 02 br
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00 Some references from the Swan's book: 02 br
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00 army officers -- OK, it is how it is phrased eventhough it could be written as 'the army's officers'. 02 br
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00 baby clothes -- Similar to the above in reasoning. 02 br
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00 table leg -- Similar to the above too. 02 br
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00 But some things are not so clear like the question " 01 b 00 What or who decides which one is proper? 02 b 00 " 02 br
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00 1. the Sunni insurgent stronghold 02 br
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00 Why not, "the Sunni insurgents' stronghold"? 02 br
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00 2. by an Isreali reaction 02 br
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00 Why not, "the Israeli's reaction"? 0-
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00 I was looking at Michael Swan's Practical English Usage and found it to be an excellent grammartical source. I was looking in particular at the section where you have nouns modifying other nouns, Eventhough I did spend some time looking at the section trying to understand the concept behind it but found that it didn't sink in, maybe due to 'moi' self. 02 br
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00 Some references from the Swan's book: 02 br
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00 army officers -- OK, it is how it is phrased eventhough it could be written as 'the army's officers'. 02 br
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00 baby clothes -- Similar to the above in reasoning. 02 br
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00 table leg -- Similar to the above too. 02 br
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00 But some things are not so clear like the question " 01 b 00 What or who decides which one is proper? 02 b 00 " 02 br
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00 1. the Sunni insurgent stronghold 02 br
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00 Why not, "the Sunni insurgents' stronghold"? 02 br
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00 2. by an Isreali reaction 02 br
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00 Why not, "the Israeli's reaction"? 0-
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02 br 02 br 01 b 00 baby clothes, baby's clothes 02 b 00 -- Similar to the above in reasoning: 01 i 00 Baby clothes are expensive. 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 table leg 02 b 00 -- Only: few native speakers anthropomorphize a table, so the possessive is very rare and generally frowned upon 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 the Sunni insurgent stronghold; the Sunni insurgents' stronghold 02 b 00 -- I think it's a toss-up. 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 by an Isreali reaction 02 b 00 -- As with the 01 i 00 insurgents 02 i 00 above.
- 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 baby clothes, baby's clothes 02 b 00 -- Similar to the above in reasoning: 01 i 00 Baby clothes are expensive.
- 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 table leg 02 b 00 -- Only: few native speakers anthropomorphize a table, so the possessive is very rare and generally frowned upon 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 the Sunni insurgent stronghold; the Sunni insurgents' stronghold 02 b 00 -- I think it's a toss-up.
- 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 by an Isreali reaction 02 b 00 -- As with the 01 i 00 insurgents 02 i 00 above.
- ' 02 i 00 -- if you used 01 i 01 b 00 Israelis' 02 b 02 i 00 , it would be OK, but it really talks about the reaction of the nation, I think.
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0 I'm not sure which parts you have extracted from 01 i 00 Swan 02 i 00 and which are your own creations, but: 02 br
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01 b 00 army officers 02 b 00 -- in general: 01 i 00 Army officers sometimes wear mufti. 02 i 02 br
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01 b 00 the army's officers 02 b 00 -- specific ones, especially as contraste
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01 b 00 army officers 02 b 00 -- in general: 01 i 00 Army officers sometimes wear mufti. 02 i 02 br
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01 b 00 the army's officers 02 b 00 -- specific ones, especially as contraste
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