Can the term 'that' be left out in the oppsitive clause or in the predictive clause?

Hello

In formal English, it is a rule not to omit 'that' when it stands as the subject in the sub-clause.
In the case 'that' stands as an object in the sub-clause, it is more natural to omit 'that'.

THAT =subject
(o) China is the country that is growing at the fastest speed.
(x) China is the country is growing at the fastest speed.
THAT= obje

In formal English, it is a rule not to omit 'that' when it stands as the subject in the sub-clause.
In the case 'that' stands as an object in the sub-clause, it is more natural to omit 'that'.

JTT: I don't think it makes a difference for formal or any English, Paco. In all English, and all dialects {as far as I know} when the relative pronoun is the subject, it is never deleted.

JTT

Thank you, JTT, for the kind comment.
But please note that I didn't say in informal speech we could omit 'that' in the example sentence I gave.

By the way my dictionary says that in informal speech, nominative 'that' is occasionally left out.
There is a store on the street sells animes.
It was Romeo met Julietta.
Do you think they are no

By the way my dictionary says that in informal speech, nominative 'that' is occasionally left out.
There is a store on the street sells animes.
It was Romeo met Julietta.
Do you think they are not English?
I'm afraid my dictionary is more anti-prescriptive than you are.

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JTT:

I'd say no, Paco. They sound strange.

Genuis E-J dictionary: Chief Editors, T. Konishi & Y. Minamiide,
(English sentences censored by Philip M. Rideout, Terry L. Weston, Alan Brady, Lawrence Shourup),
2001, Taishukan Publ. Co. Tokyo. (total pages 2400)

I think this is one of the only good dictionaries [***] there are on this subject.
(note *: this 'that' can be left out, according to the dictionary)

Hello all

I don't find it that strange. Years ago there was a song that used it:

'There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis...'

Have a good Easter break, by the way, JT.

MrP

Definitely more thought needed on this one. I agree with both Paco and Mr P. There's something here that doesn't square with my take on this.

Mr P:
Have a good Easter break, by the way, JT.


JTT: Thanks, Mr P. And since not everyone here is likely to celebrate Easter, let me just extend warm greetings to all and to all a good night.

Being a 'that-aholic', I find this thread extremely useful.
I also went to answers.com:

" That is often omitted in a relative clause when the subject of the
clause is different from the word that the clause refers to. Thus, we may
say either the book that I was reading or the book I was reading. In addition,
that is commonly omitted before other kinds of subordinate c

Omission of 'That'

[1] 'That' is often omitted in the case the words that come immediately after the omitted 'that' constitutes a nexus relation (subject+verb).
(1) I know the person (..) you mean, but I don't remember his name. [object]
(2) The place (..) I parked my car is just around the corner. [where]
(3) The time (..

Thanks!