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Zafar142003 Posted 16 years ago
Grammar

Came/ had come?

Is any of the following incorrect?

She told me that he came home late that night.
She told me that he had come home late that night.
  

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zafar142003 She told me that he had come home late that night. Past perfect use is not correct in the sentence. "she told me" is a reported speech, not an event.

  • zafar142003 She told me that he had come home late that night.
  • Past perfect use is not correct in the sentence.
  • "she told me" is a reported speech, not an event.
  • " is one simple past event.
  • So "came" is sufficient.
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zafar142003She told me that he had come home late that night.
Past perfect use is not correct in the sentence.
"she told me" is a reported speech, not an event.
"He came home late..." is one simple past event. So "came" is sufficient.
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What if I had to convert this into reported speech?
She said to me, " He came home late that night."
Will it be:
She told me that he came home late that night.
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zafar142003What if I had to convert this into reported speech?
She said to me, " He came home late that night."
Will it be:
She told me that he came home late that night.
That' will be my answer.
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The backshifting in reported speech is common, but not mandatory.

I actually would have backshifted to the "had come" but wouldn't say you were wrong if you didn't.
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Because both events are in the past, all you really need is She told me he came home late last night.
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dimsumexpressHe came home late..." is one simple past event. So "came" is sufficient.

Why does this mean we don't backshift?

Is there a rule I'm not aware of?
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Grammar GlitchBecause both events are in the past, all you really need is She told me he came home late last night.



I don't think this is right. You're meant to change the tense (of the subordinate) to the past perfect.
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No, you really don't. Backshifting when the event is in the past already is optional. It's neither wrong to leave it in the simple past nor wrong to backshift. Either is okay. Really.
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That means both versions are correct.
Thank you all of you.
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English 1b3I don't think this is right. You're meant to change the tense (of the subordinate) to the past perfect.
It may be that in a classroom exercise converting direct speech into reported speech your teacher may want you to practice using the past perfect, and therefore want you to backshift the past to the past perfect in all cases, but consider: You ca

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