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[nq:1]I saw the film "Open Range" today. It's set in the American West in 1882. The dialogue contains several references ... wondering if such establishments existed in that place at that time, and when the term "café" became current. Anyone know?[/nq]
MWCD10 dates the term to 1802. I don't know their existence at the time and in the location the movie depicts.

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[nq:2]I saw the film "Open Range" today. It's set in ... time, and when the term "café" became current. Anyone know?[/nq]
[nq:1]MWCD10 dates the term to 1802. I don't know their existence at the time and in the location the movie depicts.[/nq]
The rest of the film seemed to be well researched no glaring anachronisms (unless you count Annette Bening's rather obvious modern dental work) so i

[nq:1]I saw the film "Open Range" today. It's set in the American West in 1882. The dialogue contains several references ... wondering if such establishments existed in that place at that time, and when the term "café" became current. Anyone know?[/nq]
Can you explain what you mean by "current"? Can you explain what you mean by "the American West?"
I don't know the film, but I would say it

[nq:2]I saw the film "Open Range" today. It's set in ... time, and when the term "café" became current. Anyone know?[/nq]
[nq:1]MWCD10 dates the term to 1802.[/nq]
I don't know their existence at the time
I can't make much sense out of this. I know you're getting on in years (like many of us), but you clearly didn't mean "I didn't know of their existence at the time"; ie in 1802, you d

[nq:2]MWCD10 dates the term to 1802.[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't know their existence at the time I can't make much sense out of this. I know you're getting ... presume you meant "I don't know whether they existed at the time", but MWCD10 has just told you they did.[/nq]
No, MWCD10 told me the word existed, but not that there were necessarily any of those kind of establishments known in the locatio

[nq:2]MWCD10 dates the term to 1802.[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't know their existence at the time I can't make much sense out of this. I know you're getting ... presume you meant "I don't know whether they existed at the time", but MWCD10 has just told you they did.[/nq]
Good *** almighty. I know this group is dedicated to the love of language, but the attention to detail here is too thick for word

I was under the assumption that this group was dedicated to the usage of the English language, rather than a forum for professors and lovers of English to correct spelling and grammar mistakes unless it is specifically asked, no? I can understand if a sentence blocks mutual intelligibility, but so far none of the posts I've seen corrected by people resemble that. In fact, the only times I've had a

[nq:2]I don't know their existence at the time I can't ... the time", but MWCD10 has just told you they did.[/nq]
[nq:1]Good *** almighty. I know this group is dedicated to the love of language, but the attention to detail here is too thick for words to describe.[/nq]
No, I think Robert jumped the track before he got to the end of it and therefore just plain misunderstood what I wrote. He

[nq:1]I saw the film "Open Range" today. It's set in the American West in 1882. The dialogue contains several references ... wondering if such establishments existed in that place a=t that time, and when the term "caf=E9" became current. Anyone know?[/nq]
I dunno, but I know that in the Modern Western U.S. there are lots more humble restaurants called "cafes" (the sorts of places generally cal

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Not the main point, but I consider *of* required, rather than optional. It is somehow different from:
I know Tory Davis.
I know of Tory Davis.
Maybe the problem is with know existence .
I know the existence of widgets in Texas.
I know of the existence of widgets in Texas.
The second one is bad enough, but I cannot digest the first.

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