Anonymous - By 1813 they died. - By 1813 they had died. The second one is not grammatically correct, the simple past is used with a specific point while the past perfect is used to describe something that happened before a specific point in the past.
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Anonymous- By 1813 they died.The second one is not grammatically correct, the simple past is used with a specific point
- By 1813 they had died.
YoungBuddy
while the past perfect is used to describe something that happened before a specific point in the past.
ferdis(note he says 'by', not 'in')Totally convinced ...
AnonymousWhat is the difference in meaning?The difference is not so much in the meaning, but in the point of view. In the first case, you're telling the story in a certain order. You're thinking in terms of a time line from, say, 1800 to 1850.
- By 1813 they died.
- By 1813 they had died.