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Moon7296 Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

but (relative pronoun?)

1. There is no one but knows her

According to my book's interpretation, #1 means there's no one who doesn't know her, which means everyone knows her.

Q1) #1 is unfamilar to me. Is it correct? If so, is it just one of the uncommon way to say the meaning?

Q2) What could be most natural if "but" is replaced? Is it "that doesn't?"

Here's another example of that structure.

There is no rule but has exceptions.
  

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Hello Moon. Yes, you're right. Your understanding of that use of but is correct, and I'm not surprised the form is not familiar to you because it's almost entirely gone out of use - I can speak only for British English.

  • Hello Moon.
  • Yes, you're right.
  • Your understanding of that use of but is correct, and I'm not surprised the form is not familiar to you because it's almost entirely gone out of use - I can speak only for British English.
  • It's handy to know it, obviously, for understanding old texts, but my advice would be to avoid trying to use it, because many people wouldn't understand you.
  • Q2) The easiest way is something like Everybody knows her , but, using your proposed formula, I'd say There's no one who doesn't know her .
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Hello Moon.

Yes, you're right. Your understanding of that use of but is correct, and I'm not surprised the form is not familiar to you because it's almost entirely gone out of use - I can speak only for British English.

It's handy to know it, obviously, for understanding old texts, but my advice would be to avoid trying to use it, becau
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Thomas TompionNo head injury is too trivial to be ignored.
I don't think I'd really call that a 'triple negative'.
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fivejedjonI don't think I'd really call that a 'triple negative'.
I think the people who do so reason as follows:

1. No head injury - negative, not one head injury.

2. is too trivial - negative, is not sufficiently important.

3. to be ignored - negative, to be 'not paid attention to'.

We all know that ne
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I see the reasoning. I, personally, do not consider that to be a triple negative. If we went down that route, then we could end up with short (not long), shallow (not deep), cheap (not expensive), etc, being considered 'negative'.

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