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Youngbuts Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

bring(about dative verbs)

Hello, everyone!.

I have gotten a question about dative verbs. Could you take a look at the below?

Bring a present for(or to) Helen.
Bring Helen a present.

I guess the both sentences above could have a simmilar meaning. But I have been wondering this case could be applied to the following situations too.

A-1. The team's new manager brings ten years' experience to the job.
A-2. The team's new manager brings the job ten years' experience.(?)

B-1 The team's new manager brings ten years' experience to the the team players.
B-2 The team's new manager brings the the team players (his) ten years' experience. (?)

Are both A-2 and B-2 possible and natural? I'm coufused.

Many thanks in advance!
  

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youngbuts Are both A-2 and B-2 possible and natural? To my ear, they're correct and natural, but uncommon. There was something on our site recently attempting to codify when the indirect object may come first and when it may not.

  • youngbuts Are both A-2 and B-2 possible and natural?
  • To my ear, they're correct and natural, but uncommon.
  • There was something on our site recently attempting to codify when the indirect object may come first and when it may not.
  • I can't seem to find it.
  • I believe it depends on the specific verb, and not on the object.
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youngbutsAre both A-2 and B-2 possible and natural?
To my ear, they're correct and natural, but uncommon.
There was something on our site recently attempting to codify when the indirect object may come first and when it may not.
I can't seem to find it. I believe it depends on the specific verb, and not on the object.
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Thank you verry much. I will try to find out the thread that you told me. ^^
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My own feeling is:
youngbutsBring a present for(or to) Helen.Bring Helen a present.
All fine.
youngbutsA-1. The team's new manager brings ten years' experience to the job. A-2. The team's new manager brings the job ten years' experience.(?)
Ai- natural. A2 - not natural.
youngbutsB-1 The team's new mana
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Hello, Fivejedjon.

Thank you for your detailed and kind explanation.

If I try to keep the object 'the team players', what should I change in the sentece? Do I have better change the verb? If I change 'bring' into 'teach', how does it sound to you? Or are there are other ways or better verbs?

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