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"Born Again" - is the MCN (UK) angling for a footnote in the OED?

The term "born again bikers" has been around a while now, and to my mind its usage - informally, verbally, if not in print in registered media - really marks the point at which mainstream routes into motorcycling stopped being the preserve of the working class, skilled-trades and blue-collar "grease monkeys" and opened up into the stratosphere of executive boys' performance toys.

I also though the credibility and resonance the phrase carries was allied to the proselytising influence of the satellite broadcasters beit Jimmy Swaggart, Jim
Bakker, Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham or street theatre and charismatic healing and gospel services the hysterical mass enthusiasm demonstrated by the theologically
naive, the way they become refocused, learn new words and phrases, philosophical frameworks, ethics, manners, mores and so forth, even the way a discernible chunk of their earnings is now spoken for at source...all bore the hallmark of the new convert.
Yet the MCN seem to use it to mean people who used to ride bikes then gave them up and then took back up with it all again.
But they made some major revisions to their format in the late nineties, kept a steady editorial and production team together for quite some time, then started with an approach to recruitment and selection akin to being pulled out of the hat in an old-style media write-in comp.

They've certainly had a few difference faces at the helm this decade.
So is it possible we have a St Peter at the gate to the garden of two-wheeled delights who not only looks at good and bad biking deeds (Running up the motorway to fill a jerrycan for the campervan run out of fuel vs that video of doing 185 through rural Kent as posted to YouTube) but also is an icompetent traitor to the cultural factors preserved in the aspic amber of biking lore?
Well, I thought I'd better look to the hoary old OED, in its 10th edn from 2001, for some guidance and here's what I found:
born-again * adj. 1. relating to or denoting a person who has converted to a personal faith in Jesus Christ 2. newly converted to and very enthusiastic about (an idea, cause, etc.).Which suggests that not only is the original defintion of the term absolutely correct - authoritatively - and, being taken to mean what I thought it to mean in the first place, such that the dichotomy of "Born Again" and "Convert", in relation to motorcycles, has no meaning, there is no real alternative but to give the MCN the benefit of the doubt that it is actively seeking to be "helpful" in achieving the OUP lexicographers' next milestone of 1 000 000 million words yet seek also to tactfully point out that dictionaries haven't started being compiled since they collected six coupons, wrote up a short piece called "What I did on my Trackday instead because it was raining" , and sent it in and that the OED had its finger on the pulse when it drafted the word in from the two-wheeled circles in the first place.
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[/nq] This was my understanding of its usage. Kev

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[nq:1]The term "born again bikers" has been around a while Yet the MCN seem to use it to mean people who used to ride bikes then gave them up and then took back up with it all again.[/nq]
This was my understanding of its usage.

Kev
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[nq:1]COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON[/nq]
What is the value of this, given that you seem incapable of writing anything that is worth reading let alone copying?
I suggest that you drop it and let the sheer boredom generated by your prose protect you from the plagarists.
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[nq:1]The term "born again bikers" has been around a while now . . . Well, I thought I'd better look ... place, such that the dichotomy of "Born Again" and "Convert", in relation to motorcycles, has no meaning . . .[/nq]
The source is St. John's Gospel, 3,3, "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of ***."
Th
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[nq:1]The term "born again bikers" has been around a while now, and to my mind its usage - informally, verbally, ... of the working class, skilled-trades and blue-collar "grease monkeys" and opened up into the stratosphere of executive boys' performance toys.[/nq]
Oi ***. Haven't you worked out that it is ok to have more than one sentence per paragraph? ****** troll.
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember FCS saying something like:

[nq:1]when it drafted the word in from the two-wheeled circles in the first place.[/nq]
That's blog material - why not create one?

Dave
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