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Kooyeen Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

Bill's and my dog

Hi,

Bill and I have a dog. What's the usual way to say this:

That's Bill and my dog. / That's Bill's and my dog. / ...

Using pronouns:

That's you and my dog. / That's your and my dog. / That's yours and my dog. / ...
  

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Hiya Kooyeen (long time no see, buddy, btw) I think I'd say : "that's Bill's dog and mine" and using pronouns "that's yours and mine" or "that's your dog and mine" However, in case I need to remind you : I'm not a native ! It may be safer for you to hear from an informed Grammar ***. Ciao, Waïti.

  • Hiya Kooyeen (long time no see, buddy, btw) I think I'd say : "that's Bill's dog and mine" and using pronouns "that's yours and mine" or "that's your dog and mine" However, in case I need to remind you : I'm not a native !
  • It may be safer for you to hear from an informed Grammar ***.
  • Ciao, Waïti.
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Hiya Kooyeen
(long time no see, buddy, btw)
I think I'd say :
"that's Bill's dog and mine"
and using pronouns
"that's yours and mine" or "that's your dog and mine"
However, in case I need to remind you : I'm not a native !
It may be safer for you to hear from an informed Grammar ***.
Ciao,
Waïti.
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That's our dog avoids multiple pronouns
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Hey Waïti (sorry I can't use emoticons, I guess my browser has some problems)

You are right, but the problem is another. Maybe I should have used different examples, like these:

Come to Bill's and my party

Come to her and my party / Come to hers and my party

In other words, I'd like to know how native speakers (Americans) say sentences like "Come to Mike and Je
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Kooyeen... What's the usual way to say this: ... That's you and my dog. / That's your and my dog. / That's yours and my dog. / ...
Well, actually, there is a clever alternative which is not only quite usual but also quite painless: "That's our dog."
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Yes, you would normally say:
Mary and John's dog
(as the dog belongs to both)
but here you need to move the possessive ('s) to the first owner, because the pronoun doesn't take an 's, and
Mary and my dog
means differently (she is with my dog, which doesn't belong to her).

Thus, a compromise
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Thank you very much.

Yankee, you said that "your and my dog" is not used much. So, is "yours and my dog" a better alternative? Or, for example "Hers and my birthday party" instead of "Her and my birthday party"?

Thanks
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Kooyeen,

If you want to know how that idea is expressed in real spoken American English, here's how:

They are almost always reworded to avoid a possessive adjective (my, your, etc.) joined to another noun by and. Because of this, the 'problem' you pose is almost entirely theoretical.

Bill and my dog becomes the dog that belongs to Bil
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Ok, thank you very much!
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WaïtiHiya Kooyeen
(long time no see, buddy, btw)
I think I'd say :
"that's Bill's dog and mine"
and using pronouns
"that's yours and mine" or "that's your dog and mine"
However, in case I need to remind you : I'm not a native !
It may be safer for you to hear from an informed Grammar ***.
Ciao,
Waïti.

"Whose dog is
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Kooyeen,
I guess the situation I had in mind is about you showing a picture of two dogs sitting side by side, and identifying them : "that's bill's dog and mine".
I take it this is not the situation you asked about.
And even if it were, then I suspect the correct way of saying would be "that's bill's dog and that's mine" while pointing at each of them separately.
Just th

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