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Attributive use of the hyphen

Have we any guidance to offer on when, and when not, to use an attributive hyphen?
thickly rouged mouth?
thickly-rouged mouth?
middle aged man?
middle-aged man?
the mild mannered man?
the mild-mannered man?
meaty faux tanned flesh?
meaty faux-tanned flesh?
cheaply perfumed skin?
cheaply-perfumed skin?
outdated bleached blonde curls?
outdated bleached-blonde curls?
knee high lace up boots?
knee-high lace-up boots?
ten gallon hat?
ten-gallon hat?
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Father Ignatius wrote on 16 Apr 2005: [nq:1]Have we any guidance to offer on when, and when not, to use an attributive hyphen? thickly rouged mouth? [/nq] We discussed this a few weeks before your incyberation here, padre.

  • Father Ignatius wrote on 16 Apr 2005: [nq:1]Have we any guidance to offer on when, and when not, to use an attributive hyphen?
  • thickly rouged mouth?
  • [/nq] We discussed this a few weeks before your incyberation here, padre.
  • Never with adverbs ending in /-ly/ is one rule, it seems.
  • [nq:1]middle aged man?
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Father Ignatius wrote on 16 Apr 2005:
[nq:1]Have we any guidance to offer on when, and when not, to use an attributive hyphen? thickly rouged mouth? thickly-rouged mouth?[/nq]
We discussed this a few weeks before your incyberation here, padre. Never with adverbs ending in /-ly/ is one rule, it seems.
[nq:1]middle aged man? middle-aged man? the mild mannered man? the mild-mannered man?
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[nq:1]Have we any guidance to offer on when, and when not, to use an attributive hyphen? thickly rouged mouth? thickly-rouged mouth?[/nq]
No hyphen for compounds with "-ly" adverbs.
[nq:1]middle aged man? middle-aged man?[/nq]
Hyphen. ("There were three aged men. The ones on the left and right were bald, but the middle aged man..")
[nq:1]the mild mannered man? the mild-mannered man
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[nq:1]Father Ignatius wrote on 16 Apr 2005: We discussed this a few weeks before your incyberation here, padre.[/nq]
Ach,szo? Thank you; I'll go check out Google groups.
[nq:1]Save for the two no-nos, they-all seem-right to-me.[/nq]
Thank you.
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[nq:2]Have we any guidance to offer on when, and when not, to use an attributive hyphen? thickly rouged mouth? thickly-rouged mouth?[/nq]
[nq:1]No hyphen for compounds with "-ly" adverbs.[/nq]
Is there a rationale for this rule, or is it pure convention?

Mike Nitabach
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[nq:1]Is there a rationale for this rule, or is it pure convention?[/nq]
Since an adverb doesn't modify a noun, it is an article of general belief that -ly adverbs cannot be mistakenly interpreted as modifying the noun that follows the intervening adjective. If the -ly word can be used as both adjective and adverb, however, the situation isn't quite as clear. "The likely successful contestant"
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[nq:2]middle aged man? middle-aged man?[/nq]
[nq:1]Hyphen. ("There were three aged men. The ones on the left and right were bald, but the middle aged man..")[/nq]
Don't you think it interesting that all men are aged, but not all men are aged?
[nq:2]meaty faux tanned flesh? meaty faux-tanned flesh?[/nq]
[nq:1]Hyphen (and a comma after meaty wouldn't hurt).[/nq]
There's a bit of
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[nq:1] [/nq]
[nq:2]Hyphen (indeed, two, if it's the bleaching rather than the curling that's supposed to be outdated).[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't agree with your paranthetical remark, but I can't put my finger on why.[/nq]
If it was the bleaching, wouldn't it be "outdatedly", with or without a hyphen between b&b? (Not that I hope ever to see it used for real). CDB

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